SummerSlam SummerSlam 2014 Match Card / Live Discussion

[Roadster]

Giving away some wrestling DVD's to Live discussers.

 

[Just Kevin]

Edited to add kick off match and time of events.

 

[mh0707]

Is it worth staying up tonight or should I just watch it tomorrow? It's been a long time since I joined a LD but I wont get any sleep tonight..

 

[Prince Bálor]

As much as I'm pumped for the show, I won't stay up late tonight. By the time SummerSlam starts, it'll be like 2 AM in my country.
Can't wait to watch it tomorrow, though! And hopefully I'll be able to resist and not read any spoilers.

 

[The GOAT]

I fear Lesnar is only gonna win the championship due to shenanigans on Paul Heyman's part. Ironically, if the only way Brock can win this is by requiring outside interference, it would make him look just as "bad" (note the quotation marks) as he did when he actually lost at Extreme Rules two years ago.

The rumors are for Cena and Lesnar to go at it inside a Steel Cage at next month's Night Of Champions, and when all know the main reason for introducing the Steel Cage stipulation is to keep interference out. Cena would already have reasons to want to keep the slick and conniving Heyman from interfering anyway, but he'd have twice as much reason if Heyman actually plays a big part in him losing the title at Summerslam to begin with.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Lesnar just beat THE FUCKING STREAK! So once he's back, that's what immediately makes him in the title hunt. If he loses to Cena clean tonight, then that makes Taker's streak an absolute joke. Lesnar should win at any cost, right?

Or Cena can turn heel and retain... Or Seth comes in and cashes in the MITB contract. Either way is fine by me.

 

[The GOAT]

Lesnar just beat THE FUCKING STREAK! So once he's back, that's what immediately makes him in the title hunt. If he loses to Cena clean tonight, then that makes Taker's streak an absolute joke. Lesnar should win at any cost, right?

Or Cena can turn heel and retain... Or Seth comes in and cashes in the MITB contract. Either way is fine by me.

I definitely don't think Cena is winning tonight. I just hope he doesn't lose dirty.

I'm still crossing my fingers that they have Cena tap out to the Kimura Lock, but I'm definitely not gullible/optimistic enough to think that'll happen.

 

[Prince Bálor]

I definitely don't think Cena is winning tonight. I just hope he doesn't lose dirty.

I'm still crossing my fingers that they have Cena tap out to the Kimura Lock, but I'm not definitely not gullible/optimistic enough to think that'll happen.

Cena ain't tappin' to no one, he's a superman. lol

Just guessing... If someone's gonna lose dirty tonight, then they should've made it a No DQ.

 

[The GOAT]

I have no doubts that Brock is definitely winning the championship, though. Mainly because I'm calling Reigns beating Orton (duh) and Brie beating Stephanie (as opposed to the Nikki heel turn everyone is predicting) and I can envision Raw opening up tomorrow night with Triple H giving a promo stating that even though Orton failed to take out Roman Reigns and even though his wife suffered the worst night of her life in a fluke loss (his words, not mine) to Brie Bella, at least The Authority succeeded in taking the championship away from John Cena.

 

[Snowman]

The Nikki heel turn kinda reminds me of the Brooke Hogan heel turn everyone expected from TNA. There's no good reason to do it, it wouldn't make any sense, and absolutely nobody would care about the turn or the followup while doing everything simply would produce much better results. The intrigue to Stephanie vs Brie is to pay to see one of these two (you can decide which) get their ass kicked. Give us a pretty satisfying payoff and leave Nikki at home waiting for Cena to call.

Also acceptable: Awesome Kong shows up. powerbomb to Stephanie, powerbomb to Brie, like 15 powerbombs to Nikki, next scene.

 

[deepdoop]

Before I say this, I also 100% think Brock is winning tonight, but does anybody feel like it's a little too obvious?

Anyway, I'm excited for Ambrose vs Rollins the most, and I want to see what they're doing with Steph and Brie.

 

[Roadster]

If Cena beats Lesnar (Which he won't) that's an FU to Undertaker and 21 other guys, IMO.

 

[The GOAT]

The Nikki heel turn kinda reminds me of the Brooke Hogan heel turn everyone expected from TNA. There's no good reason to do it, it wouldn't make any sense, and absolutely nobody would care about the turn or the followup while doing everything simply would produce much better results. The intrigue to Stephanie vs Brie is to pay to see one of these two (you can decide which) get their ass kicked. Give us a pretty satisfying payoff and leave Nikki at home waiting for Cena to call.

Also acceptable: Awesome Kong shows up. powerbomb to Stephanie, powerbomb to Brie, like 15 powerbombs to Nikki, next scene.

If they really want to make Brie a star, then yeah, just put her over Stephanie tonight by having her force Stephanie to tap out to the Yes Lock (a pinfall victory would also suffice.) Not a single soul would care much for Brie getting revenge on her "evil" sister for turning on her, although it'd probably be seen as a SHOCKING SWERVE by some of the folks over at WWE Headquarters.

Then again, if I were booking the match, I might book Stephanie to win on a reverse decision. Basically, have Brie force Stephanie to tap out like a bitch to the Yes Lock, but then have Brie keep the hold locked on for a few minutes even after the match is over, and the referee eventually reverses the decision and awards Stephanie the victory, even though everyone knows Brie was the real victor. They've done this finish a few times before, most notably between Bret Hart and Jerry Lawler at the '93 Summerslam. Lawler made it personal by running down the Hart Family (just as Steph tried to poison Brie's marriage on Raw last week), so Bret kept the Sharpshooter locked on for several minutes as punishment even after Lawler submitted and Bret's victory was reversed and awarded to Lawler instead (by disqualification), but everyone knew who the real "winner" was.

They could even have HHH come out and order Brie to be carried out in handcuffs again, which I'm pretty sure would be accompanied by a unison of YES chants as Brie was being lead out with a smile on her face.

 

[Snowman]

If they really want to make Brie a star, then yeah, just put her over Stephanie tonight by having her force Stephanie to tap out to the Yes Lock (a pinfall victory would also suffice.) Not a single soul would care much for Brie getting revenge on her "evil" sister for turning on her, although it'd probably be seen as a SHOCKING SWERVE by some of the folks over at WWE Headquarters.

Then again, if I were booking the match, I might book Stephanie to win on a reverse decision. Basically, have Brie force Stephanie to tap out like a bitch to the Yes Lock, but then have Brie keep the hold locked on for a few minutes even after the match is over, and the referee eventually reverses the decision and awards Stephanie the victory, even though everyone knows Brie was the real victor. They've done this finish a few times before, most notably between Bret Hart and Jerry Lawler at the '93 Summerslam. Lawler made it personal by running down the Hart Family (just as Steph tried to poison Brie's marriage on Raw last week), so Bret kept the Sharpshooter locked on for several minutes as punishment even after Lawler submitted and Bret's victory was reversed and awarded to Lawler instead (by disqualification), but everyone knew who the real "winner" was.

They could even have HHH come out and order Brie to be carried out in handcuffs again, which I'm pretty sure would be accompanied by a unison of YES chants as Brie was being lead out with a smile on her face.

Oy, that finish brings back memories of Cole/Lawler. Surely Bret Hart made that a whole lot better back in the day. 1: Now with the Network I'll have to check that out, seeing Lawler's heel work back in the day must be interesting.

There's very little that can be gained from this long-term. This feud doesn't have legs to last several more months, it won't lead to bigger and better things for Brie Bella, it's just something to make the fans pop when the evil bitch finally gets her comeuppance (which one is the evil bitch is up for debate, but still) So if they go the screwy route, they can either delay the feud for a month in hopes that it'll get more subscribers for NoC, or they can use this to put more heat on the Authority like you said to add more heat to Bryan vs Triple H II at WM31.

 

[Red Rain]

The Nikki heel turn kinda reminds me of the Brooke Hogan heel turn everyone expected from TNA. There's no good reason to do it, it wouldn't make any sense, and absolutely nobody would care about the turn or the followup while doing everything simply would produce much better results. The intrigue to Stephanie vs Brie is to pay to see one of these two (you can decide which) get their ass kicked. Give us a pretty satisfying payoff and leave Nikki at home waiting for Cena to call.

Also acceptable: Awesome Kong shows up. powerbomb to Stephanie, powerbomb to Brie, like 15 powerbombs to Nikki, next scene.

A Nikki heel turn would be just what 'Total Divas Season 3' could use.

I fear Lesnar is only gonna win the championship due to shenanigans on Paul Heyman's part. Ironically, if the only way Brock can win this is by requiring outside interference, it would make him look just as "bad" (note the quotation marks) as he did when he actually lost at Extreme Rules two years ago.

The rumors are for Cena and Lesnar to go at it inside a Steel Cage at next month's Night Of Champions, and when all know the main reason for introducing the Steel Cage stipulation is to keep interference out. Cena would already have reasons to want to keep the slick and conniving Heyman from interfering anyway, but he'd have twice as much reason if Heyman actually plays a big part in him losing the title at Summerslam to begin with.

The steel cage match would be the rubber match. I had the same rationale you had until it was apparent that NoC would be their 3rd match since Lesnar's return.
A rubber match shouldn't necessarily require a logical reason, other than to just settle the score.