Lance Armstrong Drug Cheat

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I am sure that most will have heard the news about Lance Armstrong and the findings by USADA that detailed his drug use over the past couple of decades. The 1000 page report was released four days ago and it has plenty of damning evidence in there including testimony from a dozen former team-mates. This scandal just made cycling look every worse that it already was because it shows how prevalent doping was in the late nineties and early noughties. The sad thing is is that during Armstrong's winning years 1999-2005 out of all 21 podium places only one of them isn't questionable. All the other spots are filled by proven drug cheats. They basically have to wipe the records for those years and just ignore those years.

I am a big cycling fan and I watch the Tour de France every year into the early hours of the morning and I am sick of seeing drug cheats in the sport. They do a good job with banning those that they catch but the teams are so advanced in their doping that for so long they have been able to stay ahead of the testers. Hopefully now they have caught up so that they can clean up the sport.

At least for the last two years there have been clean winners that won't be questioned, Bradley Wiggins and Cadel Evans are two of the cleanest guys out there and when they raced you could actually see that they were in pain. They didn't have miraculous recovery rides like we saw in the past from Armstrong, Landis, Contador.

Things could get a lot worse for Armstrong as he testified in court that he hadn't used drugs and so he can be done for perjury. I hope that they go after him with everything so that they show that you can't get away with it. It may have taken them a few years to get the technology to prove what many suspected but not that they have proven it they need to throw the book at him.
 

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In the end it was determined that he must pay back his winnings from all event wins during 1998-2005. Also for those years they simply won't name a Tour de France champion as most of the other podium finishers were drug cheats as well. Sad day for cycling but hopefully they can move forward from this and just ignore this drug cheat from now on.
 

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Dang. I know I kept hearing bout Armstrong cheating and the such but having to payback all of those winnings... that is definitely going to hurt. I'm not a cycling fan but still doping in any sport is just awful.
 

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Dang. I know I kept hearing bout Armstrong cheating and the such but having to payback all of those winnings... that is definitely going to hurt. I'm not a cycling fan but still doping in any sport is just awful.

He "only" has to payback around $4 million, he will still have many millions in the bank thanks to all the sponsorship money he has received over the years.

I have been a cycling fan for as long as I can remember and every time I think the sport is cleaning itself up more drama occurs. At least with this it is from a decade ago where it was pretty obvious that most guys were on something. Hopefully soon they will be able to rid the sport of most of the cheats, there will always be one or two but back when Armstrong was doing it it was entire teams cheating together.

I feel bad for the few clean guys that were racing around this time that were never able to win and get the big sponsorship dollars because the drug cheats kept beating them.
 

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Its pretty much like that in all sports. Always going to be those few that will ruin it for the others. Always those that are going to have to cheat to win and because of that... the honest riders will always miss out.
 

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Yeah and unfortunately there is nothing that can be done for them. Hopefully the sports scientists will be able to stay ahead of those that are working for the drug cheats, for so long they were a step ahead in cycling but now the sport is catching up.
 

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I hate how theres a roll-on effect and people are slagging him off as a rotten junkie and a horrible person.

Guy raised over $300m for cancer charities ffs.
 

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I'm with Cork on this one, the media is pretty much making him out to be a monster, yet they forget his charity work.

Plus Nike dropped him from their sponsorship.
 

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Guy is getting the Pete Rose treatment and in a way I guess it's a good way to show you're damn serious about keeping the sport clean but that said to treat him like a monster like he is Chris Beniot or something is wrong considering he has done some good like Cork said.
 

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He raised money for charity by being a drug cheat. There is no pride in that at all, he is a failure that wasn't good enough unless he was pumped with EPO and other drugs. I hope that people stop giving to Livestrong and instead give money to other cancer charities that have people with better morals involved.
 

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Behind every sports great is a cheat.

It's naive to think that everyone is on an even playing field and to punish people who get caught isn't going to stop a thing. Lance Armstrong did alot of good things for cancer research and to have this witch hunt is just bullshit if you ask me.
 

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But Armstrong didn't just take a little pill once to give him a boost. He organised a sophisticated doping program that involved his entire team and including blood transfusions and EPO drips. He took cheating to a whole other level and made it a sport in itself.
 

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But Armstrong didn't just take a little pill once to give him a boost. He organised a sophisticated doping program that involved his entire team and including blood transfusions and EPO drips. He took cheating to a whole other level and made it a sport in itself.

And it worked, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying.

Whats the difference between this and diet programs or b12 shots? I personally don't see a difference, it's all about being better than your competitors. Just a witch hunt because cycling looks like it is run by morons who had heads lodged in ass.
 

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And it worked, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying.

Whats the difference between this and diet programs or b12 shots? I personally don't see a difference, it's all about being better than your competitors. Just a witch hunt because cycling looks like it is run by morons who had heads lodged in ass.

I want it to be a battle between cyclists not between who has the better scientists locked away in their labs. Not disagreeing with the moron comment, the people that have run cycling are fools.
 

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Anybody watch the first part of his confession last night?