WWE RAW November 26th 2012 Live Discussion Thread

[Wacokid27]

I was looking at the "records" earlier.

In 9 days, Punk will have been WWE Champion for 381 days, which will make him the longest-reigning WWE Champion since the 1980's, when Hogan had the last multi-year WWE Championship reign. The current longest reign was 380 days by John Cena.

Strangely, that hasn't been picked up as a WWE "Did You Know?" blurb.

wk

 

[Swift]

What the hell is a chairs match?

 

[Stopspot]

What the hell is a chairs match?

A match where you are allowed to beat someone with a chair. Often they are hanging from the roof.

 

[MarkyMark]

A chairs match where you aren't allowed to hit each other over the head will be boring.

 

[Danielson]

In all honesty I have no problem with Ryback in the main event. He has proven for the last couple of weeks that he is making up for his HIAC work and that he wants this. Kudos to him. I like to look at things in the long run. HHH is high on Bryan. His day will come.

I have no problem with it anymore either. I hope you're right and it's just what Deth said DB over for months and months and didn't feel like he was ever pushed this hard. Even when he won the WHC it seemed cowardly because he said he would win it at mania and won it before. Either way it's nice to have him around and he probably doesn't have as big of a problem with it as me so it's all gravy. I'm done bitching for tonight lol.

 

[Stopspot]

Did Jerry just make a rape joke?

 

[Swift]

I'm just getting worried that DB will be stuck in this kind of act forever meanwhile other guys get all of the opportunities.

I have a feeling this will happen. I really don't see DB becoming WWE champ ever, WHC at best. :sad1:

 

[Danielson]

I have a feeling this will happen. I really don't see DB becoming WWE champ ever, WHC at best. :sad1:

If that's the case i'd rather see him go back to ROH and I can drive 45 min to see him in matches that showcases him as the main event

 

[Stopspot]

lol this thread has become like the wrestlemania one. Just crying over Bryan. tunga: No offence guys but the last ten or so pages are probably mostly this debate on if Bryan is a joke or not. How can he be a joke when booked so strongly and still showcasing a competent moveset? It's not like Santino who has a comedic moveset to go with it.

 

[Swift]

A match where you are allowed to beat someone with a chair. Often they are hanging from the roof.

Kinda silly. Why not just make it a nodq match? ity1:

 

[Swift]

lol this thread has become like the wrestlemania one. Just crying over Bryan. tunga: No offence guys but the last ten or so pages are probably mostly this debate on if Bryan is a joke or not. How can he be a joke when booked so strongly and still showcasing a competent moveset? It's not like Santino who has a comedic moveset to go with it.

Just shows how interesting RAW has been :dawg:

 

[Cloud]

Since Ambrose very little has happened tonight very hit an miss RAW.

 

[Stopspot]

Just shows how interesting RAW has been :dawg:

In all honesty we have gotten a lot of build towards TLC but at the cost of a lot of ring work.

 

[Wacokid27]

I'm just getting worried that DB will be stuck in this kind of act forever meanwhile other guys get all of the opportunities.

You have to remember the basic reality of storytelling is that villains are flat-out more interesting than heroes.

Who's the more interesting character: Superman or Lex Luthor? Batman (the ost interesting hero in existence) or Joker? Luke Skywalker or Darth Vader? Harry Potter or Voldemort? Edward or anybody out to kill Bella in the Twilight books?

Add to that the reality, in the world of pro wrestling, that the big, muscular guys always end up being the heroes (Hogan (in his prime), Cena, Rocky, now Ryback - same list from earlier, but I digress). Meanwhile, the leaner, meaner, smarter guys end up being the villains (Punk, Edge, Michaels in his early work, HHH before he bulked up) and most of us think that Daniel Bryan is more in that latter category than the former, which suggests that he'll end up spending most of his career as a heel. Somebody's gotta be around to take on the Rybacks, Cenas, Rollinses, Sheamuses, etc., of the WWE. Since the future boss is so high on DBD, that does bode well for his future and for his future success. He'll end up having multiple world title reigns, if for no other reason than the fact that most people find it more interesting to watch the hero chase the title than hold it and beat everybody in defending it, which most fans tend to find very boring (as we did during that 380-day WWE Title Reign by Cena about 6 years ago).

So, relax. DBD will be around for a long time and will always have something to do.

wk

 

[Stopspot]

You have to remember the basic reality of storytelling is that villains are flat-out more interesting than heroes.

Who's the more interesting character: Superman or Lex Luthor? Batman (the ost interesting hero in existence) or Joker? Luke Skywalker or Darth Vader? Harry Potter or Voldemort? Edward or anybody out to kill Bella in the Twilight books?

Add to that the reality, in the world of pro wrestling, that the big, muscular guys always end up being the heroes (Hogan (in his prime), Cena, Rocky, now Ryback - same list from earlier, but I digress). Meanwhile, the leaner, meaner, smarter guys end up being the villains (Punk, Edge, Michaels in his early work, HHH before he bulked up) and most of us think that Daniel Bryan is more in that latter category than the former, which suggests that he'll end up spending most of his career as a heel. Somebody's gotta be around to take on the Rybacks, Cenas, Rollinses, Sheamuses, etc., of the WWE. Since the future boss is so high on DBD, that does bode well for his future and for his future success. He'll end up having multiple world title reigns, if for no other reason than the fact that most people find it more interesting to watch the hero chase the title than hold it and beat everybody in defending it, which most fans tend to find very boring (as we did during that 380-day WWE Title Reign by Cena about 6 years ago).

So, relax. DBD will be around for a long time and will always have something to do.

wk

This. There will always be a place for Bryan in the WWE after the year he has had. HBK's apprentice will keep up his legacy.