*Spoiler - CM Punk* (Read if you've watched RAW)

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The Cork

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I note how you are quick to call me a troll without actually refuting anything I said. It's not trolling, it's truth-ing, and you can't handle the truth.

If you are gonna pretend that you have me on ignore and don't care, you should prol stop responding to every post of mine.

Back to topic?
 

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You're a troll, Cork.

:Red:

Deal with it.
 

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RAW 1000:

Q5: 3.9 rating - Slick presides over the A.J. and Daniel Bryan wedding. Vince McMahon out to announce A.J. as the new general manager.

Q6: 4.3 rating - Daniel Bryan & C.M. Punk in-ring. The Rock out for segment with Bryan and Punk.

Q7: 3.7 rating - Bret Hart as guest ring announcer. The Miz vs. Christian. Multiple commercials.

Q12: 3.9 rating - Rally highlights, Sheen via Skype once again, Main Event ring walks. C.M. Punk vs. John Cena. Two commercials.

Overrun: 4.4 rating - Punk vs. Cena continues. Big Show interference. Rock run-in. Punk attacks The Rock.

RAW 1001:

Sheamus vs. Daniel Bryan in a Street Fight at 9pm gained 521,000 viewers.

I thought the crowd tunes out when they're on?
 

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I thought the crowd tunes out when they're on?


So you wanna quote two shows, one where he was on screen with THE ROCK, to prove a point?

Let me just drop a pipebomb on you vanilla midget fans right now.



April 30
Daniel Bryan vs. Jerry Lawler in the final match lost 198,000 viewers.

April 16
The Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston match lost 603,000 viewers for a 2.84 quarter rating.

March 20
Daniel Bryan vs. Zack Ryder lost 418,000 viewers.

Feb 27
Punk vs. Daniel Bryan lost 289,000 viewers.

Feb 20
Daniel Bryan vs. Santino Marella lost 932,000 viewers.

Feb 6
Big Show vs. Daniel Bryan lost 508,000 viewers.
 

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So you wanna quote two shows, one where he was on screen with THE ROCK, to prove a point?

Let me just drop a pipebomb on you vanilla midget fans right now.

But two of the matches you picked out there were Bryan against a semi-retired guy who is more known for his broadcast work in WWE and a guy who has never gotten above midcard
level it might be fair to say that who he was faceing might have been more a factor.

Plus I think people place too much importance on those individual segment points. There could be a number of reasons why certain segments don't draw as well as others. The only way to really judge
someone is to take them over a number of months (providing they are given proper backing by the booking team), fact is WWE have been drawing badly on TV for years long before Punk
and Bryan were even in the promotion. And correct me if I am wrong but didn't ratings go up last summer when Punk was being pushed in his shoot style character and I believe MITB 2011
was one of the biggest drawing events of the year.
 

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Didn't Orton have awful viewing numbers when he was WWE Champ back in '08/09 i think. And your your a big fan of his.
 

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Fan of his now, yes.
Fan of his then, no.

I don't look at ratings and say "that guy got a 4.0? Jeez he's my new favourite wrestler!", this is purely to back up my point nobody cares about these guys.

Liking how the excuses are already flowing though, yet when it's Cena drawing bad he automatically sucks and should be replaced as top dog. Fickle nature of internet forums I guess.
 

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So you wanna quote two shows, one where he was on screen with THE ROCK, to prove a point?

Let me just drop a pipebomb on you vanilla midget fans right now.

Ones against Jerry Lawler :lmao. I'm almost positive the others were either after the opening segment or after the 10 PM segment where a lot of people tune into, and there's almost always a drop no matter who's a part of it because of how many people tuned in the segment before.
 

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I didn't know you only became a Orton fan recently, i thought you was a fan since day one like me.
 

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This conversation looks weird with the other half not showing up. Any ideas what Punk's attitude will be like tonight? I'd say he's a little more hostile. Especially with him getting in A.J.'s face last week.
 

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Cork jumping off the bandwagon. How typical of a "fan".


Jumping off the bandwagon would be me liking him before and not liking him now.

Thats the exact opposite of what I said.

My advice would be not to goad people more intelligent than you.
 

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This is going nowhere and is gonna go nowhere so gonna get this back on topic. Despite my belief that they want Punk to be a straight up tweener in the back of my mind since today is HBK appreciation day if any of it gets done on T.V part of me thinks Punk could confront him on a you're trying to take up my spotlight thing.
 

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this argument is making several people look like foolish children. Just something to think about.


I don't see a real Tweener spot for Punk. Tweener only works well when you're consistent with who you face. For example, he's facing a heel and a face at SS. that works. But if he faces a face again and then a face again, his tweener status is going to drop off, and he'll just flat out be a heel. I just think this whole thing was poorly timed, as he can't ride some tweener status to the Rumble and be interesting. he should have tried (and failed) to help Cena, had the rock made the save and then hit him. That's far more face than heel, and understandable.
 

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If he's going full heel, they might as well wait until Night of Champions in Boston and have him go over Cena in his hometown.