Mysterio: I Want Del Rio @ WM30

[Chris]

Ziggler's the IWC's wet dream and yet he was WWE born and bred without out those orgasmic three letters that are the only reason Del Rio's hated. (When we agreed it was the booking in the first place anyway and people just equate that to Del Rio because it's not like we know any bookers)

 

[SAIYANS]

I remember there being hate from the off, people slagged off his hype promos and his whole 'destiny' gimmick.

I don't get why teh IWC hate him, he is the template of everything they love, stiff worker, kind of puro style, bland promos at times.

They just mad he's a Mexican tbh.

Ziggler's the IWC's wet dream and yet he was WWE born and bred without out those orgasmic three letters that are the only reason Del Rio's hated. (When we agreed it was the booking in the first place anyway and people just equate that to Del Rio because it's not like we know any bookers)

But the real fan knows he's just a bland pass Billy Gunn ripoff

 

[Dale]

Why would people be mad he was Mexican? Although with that said you can bet your bottom dollar he wouldn't have had the constant backing / chances he's had if he weren't Mexican.

@ the notion that people automatically dislike someone because they're not from a current company. Why is it so difficult for some people to grasp that someone may just not a particular wrestler because they don't ENTERTAIN them.

 

[Deezy]

IWC indy fanboyism remembered fondly in the Cessaro bitchfest that happened when the Real Americans put over the Prime Time Players.

Will soon happen again as soon as Sami Zayn jobs on Raw.

What were we talking about again?

 

[Chris]

No clue because ETM has to bring up ROH in every thread.

Del Rio's good though, I'm not a big fan but he does get too much hate.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

But the real fan knows he's just a bland pass Billy Gunn ripoff

He's 30 times the worker Billy Gunn is. It's not all about personality business man and even then Del Rio is better on the mic than Billy Gunn. I will say Gunn's KOTR win is slightly below ADR's Royal Rumble victory since I don't think either deserved those distinctions.

 

[SAIYANS]

He's 30 times the worker Billy Gunn is. It's not all about personality business man and even then Del Rio is better on the mic than Billy Gunn. I will say Gunn's KOTR win is slightly below ADR's Royal Rumble victory since I don't think either deserved those distinctions.

I was insulting Ziggler, who stole Billy's look, bright colors, and doesn't have the same skill set at all . He's a Wannabe Billy that 50 year old Billy shits on still across the board

Why the fuck would I call Mexican JBL a Billy Gunn ripoff? Rio can be a bit boring but I've always said he would've been much better received had he been around during the Eddie and Benoit days

 

[Embrace Thou Maryse]

Zigglers 50 times better than Billy Gunn as well. Like Billy though will never get to his full potential.

 

[SAIYANS]

Better look? No
Better talker? No
Better physicality? No

He's only better at flopping like a fish out of water with over selling, but Billy could work circles around him and talk them too

 

[Tapout]

I find anything said above to be serious. Billy was only ever allowed to say one sentence because he was THAT bad on the mic. And that one sentence was then given to Michaels. Ziggler has improved leaps and bounds on the mic. And flopping like a fish? Michaels pretty much made his name by being an over seller. If anything, Ziggler is a 10x better upgrade from Gunn.

 

[SAIYANS]

Zigglers best mic work was shutting the fuck up to let Vickie talk

 

[Dale]

ala Billy Gunn being Road Dogg's side man.

 

[Deezy]

I find anything said above to be serious. Billy was only ever allowed to say one sentence because he was THAT bad on the mic. And that one sentence was then given to Michaels. Ziggler has improved leaps and bounds on the mic. And flopping like a fish? Michaels pretty much made his name by being an over seller. If anything, Ziggler is a 10x better upgrade from Gunn.

You've obviously weren't watching the Attitude Era and just go on inside jokes, Billy Gunn was flying solo for half if not most of that time and was very over.

As for Michaels overselling....Comparing Ziggler to a drugged up 1997 version of HBK is hilarious, Michaels had an excuse, he was drugged out of his skull, what's Zigglers excuse? Oh yeah, he doesn't use psychology and relies on adding some twists to simple bumps. What a great worker he is, so great he doesn't know how to control an audience.

 

[Chris]

JESUS! All I said was IWC people like Ziggler and now we get a page on him.

 

[Deezy]

JESUS! All I said was IWC people like Ziggler and now we get a page on him.

And the post count went up.......What's the problem?