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WWE Raw 4/11/16 April 11, 2016: Is AJ Styles our next WWE World Heavyweight Champion?

Sabretooth

Well-Known Member
John Cena a cornball who is only worried about money and t-shirt sales..I hope they don't put another World title on him until he decides to actually play ball and turn heel..I'll forever boo Cena until he can make the flip like an Austin, or a Rock or Taker or a Ric Flair.

Everybody you just named except Ric flair was a better babyface
 

Deezy

DZ PZ
Show was great tonight.

Shocking debuts, great matches and Bray Wyatt is a character babyface.

Rock and Mankind fued for Reigns and Wyatt in the near future.
 

Kross Rhodes

Israel Has the Right to Exist
Yes he would, the audience would've just switched the other way.

You know what decides if something isn't stale....if it makes money.
Something that isn't stale, especially your top babyface, isn't booed by half your audience. You can make money and still be boring. Are you going to tell me you can see a movie that made a lot of money and say it can't possibly be boring?

And what makes you think Cena would be hated as a heel? Cena was over as fuck when he was a heel in 2002? :lmao
 

Deezy

DZ PZ
John Cena a cornball who is only worried about money and t-shirt sales..I hope they don't put another World title on him until he decides to actually play ball and turn heel..I'll forever boo Cena until he can make the flip like an Austin, or a Rock or Taker or a Ric Flair.
Turn heel so I can cheer you dammit :lollins:
 

Sabretooth

Well-Known Member
I've not see this podcast, regardless, having Hall and Hogan lose at WrestleMania a month in shows they didn't want it to work. The nWo rarely lost big show matches. SuperBrawls and Starrcades were like Heel Paydays. The nWo came out of WrestleMania looking like they couldn't handle anything the WWF threw at them. Especially with Hogan refusing to beat down The Rock. Scott Hall being fired later, has no bearing on WWE's booking of him at WrestleMania. And like I said, the money match was Austin/Hogan anyway. By switching it to Austin/Hall in the first place, they were already cooling on the idea of the nWo being a big angle in the WWE.

Austin and Hogan didn't want to face each other and don't even try to make an argument that Rock/Hogan wasn't a money match
 

Sabretooth

Well-Known Member
Something that isn't stale, especially your top babyface, isn't booed by half your audience. You can make money and still be boring. Are you going to tell me you can see a movie that made a lot of money and say it can't possibly be boring?

And what makes you think Cena would be hated as a heel? Cena was over as fuck when he was a heel in 2002? :lmao

TBH you have to think about the kids. How do you explain to all the make a wish kids that their hero is now an asshole?
 

Deezy

DZ PZ
Something that isn't stale, especially your top babyface, isn't booed by half your audience. You can make money and still be boring. Are you going to tell me you can see a movie that made a lot of money and say it can't possibly be boring?

And what makes you think Cena would be hated as a heel? Cena was over as fuck when he was a heel in 2002? :lmao
Cena was over as fuck in 03.

Get the timeline right. 02 he was comedy fodder feuding with Rikishi.

Can't argue against success....you just don't have to like, but accept it as a fact.
 

Kross Rhodes

Israel Has the Right to Exist
Show was great tonight.

Shocking debuts, great matches and Bray Wyatt is a character babyface.

Rock and Mankind fued for Reigns and Wyatt in the near future.
Show was pretty fantastic this week. WWE actually tried to make it look like Shane made a difference this week.

I definitely want to see more of babyface Bray Wyatt. I only hope he ditches those "family members next."
 

Deezy

DZ PZ
If you had the book, would you just never turn anyone heel? :lmao

And no, I no longer care about Cena turning heel. It is what it is.
If I had the book, I wouldn't turn people heel who are making me money.

130 million a year on Cena merchandise.... Only an idiot would ruin that.
 

Petty

If You Smell....
Everybody you just named except Ric flair was a better babyface

You saying this just actually eliminates you from any further debates about this subject sir. And, I'm gonna ask you go rewatch all of those guys I listed heel runs and take notes.
 

Kross Rhodes

Israel Has the Right to Exist
Cena was over as fuck in 03.

Get the timeline right. 02 he was comedy fodder feuding with Rikishi.

Can't argue against success....you just don't have to like, but accept it as a fact.
He was over by Armageddon 2002. Either way, you're playing semantics.

As far as facts, most performers have occasional heel turns. John Cena is probably the only guy to go this long without one. So I don't care about Cena, but if you think Styles is never turning heel, you're deluding yourself. Also, as far as facts go, they never would have let The Rock go this long being booed without a heel turn. Even with his merchandise sales.
 
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