You wanna know what i love?

[FlandyOrton]

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[FlandyOrton]

I disagree with not getting rowdy over it. If enough people are canceling the WWE network, I have a feeling Vince and others will respond if it hits their bottom line, pocketbooks. The problem with fans is exactly what you said: they don’t get rowdy enough and nothing happens. If fans actually started cancelling in droves, WWE would listen, because their stock would drop. Instead, people have the mentality of “it won’t change;” well, that’s true if you don’t give them a reason to change.

To hell with not getting rowdy, it's up to us to fix it!

 

[FlandyOrton]

Sorry but what is wrong with Orton winning? The Fiend is quite literally a horror movie monster. You burn him alive and then he comes alive and gets his revenge. Its basic storytelling. I dont see how you can have a problem with this match. The Fiend is such a force that the only way to end him is to literally be burnt alive.


He was burning alive.... then got hit by an rko. And he wasnt even knocked out for a long time before he got burnt alive. I dont see the problem. It doesn't make the Fiend look weak or foolish.

The monster gets taken out and everybody thinks he is gone forever then boom he is back. Really basic cliche from the horror genre. I dont see how this buries Bray in anyway if anything but enhances the character

Yeah... horror movie monsters are scary because they kill people!

Who tha fack is scared of this guy who loses every match & can't beat anybody up?

Bray was SO over before he came up to the main roster... when he first came up with his character. He was just like a weird cult leader who cut really good promos, beat people up & lived on a farm. Like a mix between Charles Manson & dude love, it was so refreshing.

Vince sees this man & is like "LET'S TURN HIM INTO THE UNDERTAKER! HAHAHA!" Gives him special powers, a lantern and having him appear out of the blue. Then makes him lose every freaking match & not only that but just SHOVES & RUBS the gimmick right in your face & beats it to death!

Bray miraculously finds a way to stay alive by reinventing himself as The Fiend, a whole new guy who shouldn't have lost a match since he showed up. A REALLY cool concept with endless possibilities where he can turn guys heel or back to their old selves. Perfect & easy way for legends to come back or to immediately hault a guy as a face if it's not working at any time in multiple situations. Heel or Thuganomics Cena, Monster Kane, heel Sting attacks Taker with a bat ANYBODY... Vince does the EXACT same thing again! Kills it!

Some how... HHH got Enzo & Cas over AF in NXT. They come up, Vince gets them to go out EVERY single night... saying the exact same thing EVERY night until ya just wanna puke, just beats ya over the head with it until he kills it.

Vince McMahon is an overrated promoter & an evil person all around who capatalized on Hulk because it was an obvious move, everybody wanted him & he was handed the biggest platform for Hulk by Vince Sr. Then after Hogan was gone he took great ideas from all the people who worked for him like Pat Patterson or from the other competition like the Attitude Era from Heyman along with the biggest star with the attitude. Until there was no competition to steal from making his show boring AF. He has ZERO idea on how to make superstars unless they're giants & that's only because it's easy, have them stand there & look huge & oily. He has even less of a clue in his old age, the guy has to go.

 

[Redboy123@]

Yeah horror movie monsters are scary because they kill people.

Who tha face is scared of this guy who loses every match & can't beat anybody up??

He has a decent win loss record to be fair to him. Only got pinned once

 

[PaulDB]

Yeah... horror movie monsters are scary because they kill people!

Who tha fack is scared of this guy who loses every match & can't beat anybody up?

Bray was SO over before he came up to the main roster... when he first came up with his character. He was just like a weird cult leader who cut really good promos, beat people up & lived on a farm. Like a mix between Charles Manson & dude love, it was so refreshing.

Vince sees this man & is like "LET'S TURN HIM INTO THE UNDERTAKER! HAHAHA!" Gives him special powers, a lantern and having him appear out of the blue. Then makes him lose every freaking match & not only that but just SHOVES & RUBS the gimmick right in your face & beats it to death!

Bray miraculously finds a way to stay alive by reinventing himself as The Fiend, a whole new guy who shouldn't have lost a match since he showed up. A REALLY cool concept with endless possibilities where he can turn guys heel or back to their old selves. Perfect & easy way for legends to come back or to immediately hault a guy as a face if it's not working at any time in multiple situations. Heel or Thuganomics Cena, Monster Kane, heel Sting attacks Taker with a bat ANYBODY... Vince does the EXACT same thing again! Kills it!

Some how... HHH got Enzo & Cas over AF in NXT. They come up, Vince gets them to go out EVERY single night... saying the exact same thing EVERY night until ya just wanna puke, just beats ya over the head with it until he kills it.

Vince McMahon is an overrated promoter & an evil person all around who capatalized on Hulk because it was an obvious move, everybody wanted him & he was handed the biggest platform for Hulk by Vince Sr. Then after Hogan was gone he took great ideas from all the people who worked for him like Pat Patterson or from the other competition like the Attitude Era from Heyman along with the biggest star with the attitude. Until there was no competition to steal from making his show boring AF. He has ZERO idea on how to make superstars unless they're giants & that's only because it's easy, have them stand there & look huge & oily. He has even less of a clue in his old age, the guy has to go.

Hogan was but one of many. The list is huge. Diesel, Earthquake, Sid and Yokuzuna, all fit the bill and it was only by divine miracle that Bret Hart, his brother Owen, Daniel Bryan and the other lighter guys got over. Had Vince had his way, the Big Show and Mark Henry would've had plenty of company and the smaller guys would've been crushed underfoot without any remorse. Just so happens the balance was redressed along the way, but not too often, sadly.