Yeah, what's the update with TNA?

[CFCrusader]

Not to sound offensive. But lol

I mean, to be fair, they have a hot version of the Orlando crowd, EC3 vs Hardy feud is decent, they're rebuilding the other divisions and well, EC3 vs Hardy and Angle vs Galloway have been two great main events (idk about this week as I watch on Challenge). The X-Division matches have been quite fun, too. An entertaining 2 hours IMO, especially when you think about how they're building to some big matches for the UK tour. Things can only go up IMO (inb4 the entire TNA roster walk out).

 

[Stopspot]

I mean, to be fair, they have a hot version of the Orlando crowd, EC3 vs Hardy feud is decent, they're rebuilding the other divisions and well, EC3 vs Hardy and Angle vs Galloway have been two great main events (idk about this week as I watch on Challenge). The X-Division matches have been quite fun, too. An entertaining 2 hours IMO, especially when you think about how they're building to some big matches for the UK tour. Things can only go up IMO (inb4 the entire TNA roster walk out).

What crowd? The 200 people in Bethlehelm PA who came for the casino and didn't give a fuck about the wrestling?
The EC3 vs Matt Hardy feud is already showing signs of tanking.
The X division has no direction. The Knockout division is the worst its ever been and there are no credible tag teams outside of the wolves and beer money.

TNA are in the same pattern as they were last year, build stuff up for the UK tour, then spiral into a crash after it. Jeff Hardy is being built as the main babyface, and he still cannot enter the UK as far as I know.
Once TNA burn through the India money and the money they have made by dropping Kurt, they'll be right back were they were last year.

 

[C.M. Shaddix]

pretyy accurate for the future amirire?

 

[C.M. Shaddix]

What crowd? The 200 people in Bethlehelm PA who came for the casino and didn't give a fuck about the wrestling?
The EC3 vs Matt Hardy feud is already showing signs of tanking.
The X division has no direction. The Knockout division is the worst its ever been and there are no credible tag teams outside of the wolves and beer money.

TNA are in the same pattern as they were last year, build stuff up for the UK tour, then spiral into a crash after it. Jeff Hardy is being built as the main babyface, and he still cannot enter the UK as far as I know.
Once TNA burn through the India money and the money they have made by dropping Kurt, they'll be right back were they were last year.

It's an ongoing cycle now, build in Uk, flop, then build again, then flop again, Indian tour is obviously cancelled but that was just bad luck, TNA will possibly never die but they'll always be Wrestle Observer's worst promotion of the year.

Dixie, give it up please, this whole run a wrestling promotion has blew up in your face

 

[Snowman1]

I'll agree on TNA being decent since the move to Pop. Seeing good effort from the guys and most of the angles are pretty good. The depleted as all hell roster - as Stop mentioned since a Beer Money reunion (which is great and my first-ever nostalgia pop, lol) cost them two potential top guys and Angle is having a retirement tour, the only guys they can put in the ME scene believably are Ethan and a much improved on the mic McIntyre. This Matt Hardy title reign is a farce anyway. Yes, it sucks that he's even champion, but the way he won it (via double turn due to a thrown hammer hidden in a baby carriage and Tyrus turning on EC3 and the whole match being around Ethan's "neva say die attitude")... It was like ADR winning the WHC from Dolph that one time, hopefully with the right outcome this time. Such a forgotten stupid WWE booking decision lol

In large part though, I've felt like with more indies being more easily accessible, TNA has had to step up and do something that gives them an identity. They shouldn't be a second rate version of anyone, especially when they have to largely hide their roster, and TNA being about swerves and throwing shit at the wall and more... For lack of a better word, fun stuff, should separate them from all the other stuff we watch wrestling for which are well covered by the other companies.

 

[Snowman1]

Also surely you know about how they got kicked from Spike, right?

Someday when we're grandpas, our children will scream for us to tell the legendary tale of Vince Russo trying to use email

 

[Stopspot]

Also surely you know about how they got kicked from Spike, right?

Someday when we're grandpas, our children will scream for us to tell the legendary tale of Vince Russo trying to use email

"Snow, I swear to gawd. I did not know I had more than one Mike in my email address book."

 

[Roadster]

TNA had a great debut episode on Pop. I've been watching TNA more regularly. I like the atmosphere of Impact. It's kind of like a Dragon Gate, type feel. The weird calm yet exciting feel. From the pretty kick ass theme song. To the set up.

Besides that, TNA is doing well, product wise. Nothing can reach 2014 TNA, but this is as close as you can get.

 

[Stopspot]

TNA had a great debut episode on Pop. I've been watching TNA more regularly. I like the atmosphere of Impact. It's kind of like a Dragon Gate, type feel. The weird calm yet exciting feel. From the pretty kick ass theme song. To the set up.

Besides that, TNA is doing well, product wise. Nothing can reach 2014 TNA, but this is as close as you can get.

2014 TNA was garbage. 2012 was the best year in TNA creatively.

 

[Stopspot]

Also @Crayo I remembered two more memorable TNA 2015 moments.

During the last UK tour they started booking Scottish wrestler Grado (It's yersel!). Grado's entrance theme is a version of Madonna's like a prayer. TNA somehow did not think they would have to pay for it and Madonna's label sent them a strongly worded letter. Grado now has a shitty "cover" in TNA.

Also Hernandez fucked them over. Hernandez left to do Lucha Underground (If you are to watch any wrestling, watch that btw). Taped an entire season of Lucha Underground and then went back to TNA and said "yo, sign me back plz babe?". TNA did. Taped about two months worth of TV featuring him, and then LU's lawyers came calling since Hernandez was under contract with them. Hernandez is now persona non grata in both companies and TNA were forced to hard edit about two months of TV.

 

[Roadster]

2014 TNA was garbage. 2012 was the best year in TNA creatively.

Strongly disagree with that.

 

[Stopspot]

Strongly disagree with that.

What was better in 2014, than the rise of Aries, the IT Factor reign, the emergence of Bully Ray and the birth of Bad Influence?

TNA 2014 was mid Aces and Eights bs

 

[Roadster]

What was better in 2014, than the rise of Aries, the IT Factor reign, the emergence of Bully Ray and the birth of Bad Influence?

TNA 2014 was mid Aces and Eights bs

Aces and Eights was long gone, by then. Having some of the best tag matches from the Dudleys, Hardys and American Wolves. Having Bobby Roode once again regain the spotlight. Bobby Lashly's series of 5 star matches from guys like A Double, Bobby Roode all the way to guys like Eric Young. Having the rebirth of the X-Division, new stars and old ones return/debuted. The atmosphere of the New York crowds, every week. The rebuilt KO division and The Revolution.

It was hella better than the birth of Aces and Eights, Claire Lynch, the burial of Joey Ryan, Joseph Park and Earl Hebner fucking Madison Raine.

I'm sure you can list off stupid/disgusting (look at you, Earl) moments, but TNA 2014 was great. TNA did have a good sprout of intelligent booking, but the same happened in 2014, except the shenanigans were cut to a minimum.

I'll just say The Menagerie was pretty fucking bad.

 

[Snowman1]

2012 had many positives with plenty of negatives. 2014 was much less interesting but - after Russo left and EY lost the title - seemed like they lacked "that one storyline" TNA always has, right?

Still outside of Lashley, Wolves vs Aries/Roode and EC3/Spud, I remember nothing from 2014 TNA already, but that's a nitpick if you enjoyed it in the moment... That's kinda become TNA's M.O., put on entertaining shows you don't remember.

 

[Roadster]

Completely forgot about Spud and EC3. That was hilarious.