WWE Sabotaging Itself To Push Reigns...

[edge4ever]

Also, John Cena is a work horse who has put his past marriage after wrestling, his freedom after wrestling, and even having kids after wrestling. Wrestling was #1 in his life for many, many years.

I don’t get how this matters. Roman works just as hard as John and has his family still. It’s his choice to do it this way, and in no way do I think it matters. Roman can say his family is # 1 all he wants, but in the industry he’s in, that’s not possible.

 

[edge4ever]

Also, John Cena is a work horse who has put his past marriage after wrestling, his freedom after wrestling, and even having kids after wrestling. Wrestling was #1 in his life for many, many years.

Plus you’re making it sound like because John had no kids and such, he’s very taltneted on the mic. In reality, however, a lot of that is just God given. You really think John had to work a lot on that stuff? No. Same with punk or anyone else.

 

[Solid Snake]

Plus you’re making it sound like because John had no kids and such, he’s very taltneted on the mic. In reality, however, a lot of that is just God given. You really think John had to work a lot on that stuff? No. Same with punk or anyone else.

I'm not making it sound like that at all, I am stating that he put the WWE before everything else in his life. A lot of wrestlers, Roman included, do not. They put their family first. Also, you said it right there, John has a God given talent with charisma and didn't have to work as hard as other sat it. So with that being said, again, it is unfair to compare Roman to him. WWE is pushing him in a way that doesn't help either. His strengths should be pushed and they hardly are which is why it is easier to notice his flaws.

I am not and never was a Roman fan. I am indifferent of him really. Out of the Shield, I always said Seth was the best and still believe that but the company wants Roman to be the guy they ride on. It is 2018 and you shouldn't rely on one guy in entertainment. Rarely is music, movies, television down to one talent being good. It takes a team and they are ignoring that which is only making Roman look worse.

 

[¡Tranquilo!]

Like I said in the other anti-Roman thread, Roman winning was apart of the plan since last years Mania and it just so happens that Lesnar's contract was up at around the same time. Why would they waste their time trying to put over brock when he already has one foot out the door? Why not just use it as an opportunity to get all the face heat on Roman Reigns?.

NJPW with Okada. ipebomb:

Difference is Okada puts on better matches

 

[Jacob Fox]

NJPW with Okada. ipebomb:

Although Okada is not the most popular guy in NJPW, he is still pretty popular. It is sometimes difficult to tell because of the way that Japanese fans behave, as you mentioned below. They tend to make less noise during a match. But he doesn't get the overwhelming negative reactions that Roman gets over here.

There are differences between them pushing Okada and Vince pushing Roman. First, Okada is a far superior wrestler. I'm not saying Roman is bad, but he's not on the same level. Plus Okada paid a lot more dues than Roman. He debuted in 2004 and wrestling a good 8 years before winning his first IWGP Championship. And even then, he wasn't being pushed as the main star in the company. Roman began in 2010 and was put on his main event push before he was ready four years later. For the most part, he's been consistently in World title contention since.

The biggest part of the difference though is what the fans want to see. I have zero doubt the majority of NJPW fans would have preferred if Tetsuyo Naito would have won the IWGP Championship in January. However, Okada has not at any point gotten the sort of negative reaction that follows Reigns wherever he goes. While Okada may be pushed a bit harder than he should be, it's nothing compared to Reigns. I would easily say most fans have made it clear they don't think Reigns should be the top guy. It's not as one sided for Okada.

 

[Jacob Fox]

Cool. Same can be said for Roman. If you watch enough Okada matches, you'll see a different style, but you should also see that the formula for his matches is virtually the same as Roman matches. But because Okadas a New Japan guy wrestling a puro style, he's over even though he's really one of the least talented wrestlers in the company. Roman is pushed by WWE as the top baby and never worked elsewhere, so in the internet era hes not gonna get over very well, even though he's on a similar level of talent or higher than most of the roster.

I am sorry but I watch every Okada match that they show on NJPW World and to actually say he is one of the least talented wrestlers in the company is complete nonsense.

Every wrestler has a certain formula to their matches. Every single one. But what makes a good wrestler is when they can wrestle other wrestlers, meshing their styles to come out with a unique match. Okada does this on a completely consistent basis. Roman Reigns does not.

 

[Snowman1]

Another day, another Roman thread...

This feels crazy given his WM history, I don't think Roman is consistently pushed that hard. Hell, Braun has been most of the focal point of Raw in the past year (granted much of that was to give Lesnar a rival while waiting for Mania) and in the fatal 4 way at Summerslam he felt like he was just in there to take the pin.

Posted this before but it feels like with Wrestlemania being the one show random people buy, Roman has the most hard-hitting offense on the roster, so to people that watch wrestling once a year (or kids) Roman looks cool on a poster and has cool offense, but for those of us who see ten Superman Punches a week and are long since bored of it, we see how Johnny Impact is the best athlete on Impact Wrestling's roster and buy him as the top guy. We see hidden gem Dalton Castle and ride with him to the top of Ring of Honor. We watch Prince Puma valiantly fighting against evil with sick 630 splashes in Lucha Underground, we feel the emotions and our heart breaks along with the bones of Johnny Gargano, and when watching most New Japan shows we can argue who the best worker is over there but Okada certainly feels like a round peg in a round hole as the standard-bearer of NJPW. Shit even AJ Styles is the best wrestler on Smackdown so until someone comes up to challenge him it only feels right for him to be above everyone else.

Roman just doesn't bring anything to the table that pushes him that far ahead of everyone else, that's why we get these weird times of year when they get like this. But he'll look like a worldbeater here then lose the belt to Seth in 2 months like last time lol