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WWE Raw thread, Dec. 23, 2019: Rollins challenges Mysterio in bid for dominance

Sabretooth

Well-Known Member
But that to me doesn't make someone a GOAT, or one of the best. If you got to have the right people to work with, you're not the GOAT.

i mean pretty much every major star that John worked with he had a great match. Why do you think he's called Big Match John? I mean fuck he even had an incredible US Title match wth Cesaro on Raw. PPV worthy.
 

Kross Rhodes

Israel Has the Right to Exist
His entire feud with the Miz was awesome TBH. His feud with Rock and Punk. Feud with Roman. The whole US title run.
The feud with rock was great because Rock literally shit on his PG character the entire time. Not a great example.

I'll give you Punk as I already stated to Blaze. He has some stuff I liked, but doesn't mean his overall PG character wasn't awful.

I liked the US run, but that's also after the PG Era ended and Cena stepped out of the spotlight, which I said to begin with I liked.
 

Hidden Blaze

The Wanted Man
His entire feud with the Miz was awesome TBH. His feud with Rock and Punk. Feud with Roman. The whole US title run.

The build to the matches with Miz were good....the matches were okay. Rock and Punk helped the matches be great, and Roman helped as well. I'll give you the US Open Challenge, I enjoyed that. But they also was booking the right people against him for the matches.
 

Deezy

DZ PZ
The feud with rock was great because Rock literally shit on his PG character the entire time. Not a great example.

I'll give you Punk as I already stated to Blaze. He has some stuff I liked, but doesn't mean his overall PG character wasn't awful.

I liked the US run, but that's also after the PG Era ended and Cena stepped out of the spotlight, which I said to begin with I liked.
Cena got the crowd chanting tooth fairy at him
 

Sabretooth

Well-Known Member
The build to the matches with Miz were good....the matches were okay. Rock and Punk helped the matches be great, and Roman helped as well. I'll give you the US Open Challenge, I enjoyed that. But they also was booking the right people against him for the matches.

Yeah you're literally making no sense. The quantity of people he faced in the US title matches would mean there's an extremely narrow window of wrestlers that he couldn't have a good match with which isn't even true in general.
 

Hidden Blaze

The Wanted Man
i mean pretty much every major star that John worked with he had a great match. Why do you think he's called Big Match John? I mean fuck he even had an incredible US Title match wth Cesaro on Raw. PPV worthy.

We're all just going to have to agree to disagree. Cena just to me isn't the GOAT. But if you want to put him in a tier like others said sure.
 
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