WWE RAW June 4th Live Discussion

[Heisenberg]

Was CM Punk suppose to hit the corner turnbuckle because that looked like Kane missed the spot there but CM goes to the outside, didn't think that was supposed to happen.

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With the there must be a winner stip, Bryan can easily interfere.

Doubt it. Kane has done that move many times where they go over the top rope and maybe so Bryan could get a kick or two in on Punk during the commercial.

 

[PHX]

I was trolling sure, but let's be honest. Do you not think Kane having a reign with the belt for the same length as Punk would have a bigger payoff for the winner? Bryan and Punk are running a wheel, same with Jericho when he was in the scene, no matter who wins the casuals don't give a fuck to tune in and watch. Kane or Big Show having a reign and then getting beat will be bigger IMO as they can actually make a guy, since they are made, unlike Punk who is still trying to find his 1b credibility and Bryan who is trying to get used to even mattering. I just don't see he they can help the company or anyone with Punk vs Bryan, because neither men can make a Dolph, Ryback, Cody or so on legit by losing to the. And it irks me that they are disgracing the main title in the company with this shit

Make this easy for you: No

 

[rawisrey]

Kane can be put in so many stupid storylines, he can job out to whatever new Monster is coming up to push them, he can cry in a submission move to push it that much more, he can get injured by anyone you tel him too, he can get his ass handed to him every week by Orton. But he can always pull off being unstoppable, which is why I think this triple threat will be entertaining, I see Punk and bryan getting dominated for a while until they reluctantly start working together to get rid of Kane, cause no matter how much he loses Kane is still believable as the guy who needs two people to finish him off.

 

[John McHenry]

Just got in

 

[Troy]

I was trolling sure, but let's be honest. Do you not think Kane having a reign with the belt for the same length as Punk would have a bigger payoff for the winner? Bryan and Punk are running a wheel, same with Jericho when he was in the scene, no matter who wins the casuals don't give a fuck to tune in and watch. Kane or Big Show having a reign and then getting beat will be bigger IMO as they can actually make a guy, since they are made, unlike Punk who is still trying to find his 1b credibility and Bryan who is trying to get used to even mattering. I just don't see he they can help the company or anyone with Punk vs Bryan, because neither men can make a Dolph, Ryback, Cody or so on legit by losing to the. And it irks me that they are disgracing the main title in the company with this shit

It wouldn't really hurt WWE to try it out either, have Kane win the title at No Way Out and then see what happens to the ratings. If nothing changes then he can easily drop it back next month at MITB. Plus as you said it would mean quite a bit if someone like Punk or Bryan beat someone like Kane to take the title.

 

[John McHenry]

Cole has a match with John Cena?

That doesn't seem completely stupid.

 

[Andrew]

Impressive knee to the jaw there!

Came out of nowhere!

 

[Heisenberg]

Bryan is sitting at the announcers desk but why isn't Bryan on commentary?

And for fucks sake. Stop talking about Cena you cunt of announcers. I'm sick of the ENTIRE show revolving around Cena every single fucking week.

 

[Andrew]

Cole has a match with John Cena?

Unfortunately yes and it's the main event...

 

[SAIYANS]

This should be the mainevent. They could easily have had Cena vs Cole in this spot and saved this match for the end.

People are going to watch Cena as the face, they won't stick around for punk. They will watch Kane and Cole as protagonists regardless, but Bryan as the third piece of the feud still ain't enough star power to main event during playoff season

 

[Troy]

Kane can be put in so many stupid storylines, he can job out to whatever new Monster is coming up to push them, he can cry in a submission move to push it that much more, he can get injured by anyone you tel him too, he can get his ass handed to him every week by Orton. But he can always pull off being unstoppable, which is why I think this triple threat will be entertaining, I see Punk and bryan getting dominated for a while until they reluctantly start working together to get rid of Kane, cause no matter how much he loses Kane is still believable as the guy who needs two people to finish him off.

And that is why it will be a massive loss for WWE when Kane eventually retires. The fact that he can play so many roles in the company makes him so valuable plus the fact that he doesn't mind putting others over makes him a huge asset.

 

[rawisrey]

As much as I would love it I don't think kane is winning the title. Kane is being used as the monster these two guys have been suing on each other. it works out perfectly, but the monster never ends up winning the title. if anything I see Kane about to beat punk but Daniel Bryan sneaking into the cover. That is only if Punk loses it of course

 

[John McHenry]

Just started watching after the last commercial break and I must say this Kane Punk match is pretty good from what I've seen. Anything else happen of major note?

 

[Troy]

People are going to watch Cena as the face, they won't stick around for punk. They will watch Kane and Cole as protagonists regardless, but Bryan as the third piece of the feud still ain't enough star power to main event during playoff season

They would stick around because of the three involved. Punk is popular and most people like Kane so they would tune in to see what happened with them in the mainevent.

 

[PHX]

It wouldn't really hurt WWE to try it out either, have Kane win the title at No Way Out and then see what happens to the ratings. If nothing changes then he can easily drop it back next month at MITB. Plus as you said it would mean quite a bit if someone like Punk or Bryan beat someone like Kane to take the title.

You guys are putting WAYYYYY too much on ratings. As if ratings mean credibility or something and it's silly. Fact is Kane outside of a few points in his career has been a jobber to stars. I know you're a Kane fan but lets not forget what Kane's role has pretty much been. Punk is having one of the longest reigns in a while so no need to break that up in the sake of ratings.