WWE RAW 5th December2011 - Discussion Thread

[Crippler]

Can't wait to see Ricardo climb the ladder at TLC

 

[Andrew]

ROFL

I swear to Jesus if you say it's your destiny again I'll start drinking.


ROFLMAO!

 

[PHX]

Just stand there ADR don't need to talk right now.

 

[Andrew]

LOL JOHNNY ACE

Let's take a picture.

 

[Crippler]

Ace has been great tonight

 

[Andrew]

CM comes out on top to close the show.

 

[Crippler]

lol

 

[PHX]

There has only been a handful of Contract signings I've actually enjoyed and Punk has probably been in about half of em.

 

[Andrew]

Raw was meh...

The promo segment was good though.

 

[Andrew]

- The dark match before tonight's RAW Supershow in Tampa saw The Usos defeat Tyler Reks and JTG, with Curt Hawkins in their corner.

- Matches taped tonight in Tampa for WWE Superstars were Mason Ryan vs. Drew McIntyre and Epico vs. Evan Bourne. Epico had Primo and Rosa Mendes in his corner.

 

[Troy]

Seems like a lot of talking on this show.

I liked that Dolph Ziggler wanted to get involved in the World Heavyweight title scene. I really think that he has all the skills required to be a maineventer and hopefully that happens next year. Interesting storyline that Cena gave up his title shot in order to give Ryder a chance at winning one. I like how the Ziggler match ended as it allows him to face Ryder at the PPV.

I am very happy that Cena isn't in the title match, he can still be on the PPV card just keep him out of the title scene until after WM28. Title match for TLC in a TLC match should be awesome with Miz, Del Rio and Punk.

Don't like Nash vs. HHH in a ladder match, save their singles match for the RR.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

There was a lot of wrestling on the show just not a lot matches getting time to develop. Probably too many matches for a Raw but I did like the goal they were pushing for with the main event of TLC. I also stated I wanted this title match last week if anyways was paying attention.

One thing I noticed was a lot of the show surrounded Ziggler and Ryder with Ryder looking awesome by the end. Good push of the mid-card division but there should be more to it. At least these two are getting some great reactions.

Most of the time I hate Ladder matches that involve wrestlers like Nash and hell Triple H since he has to work with Nash so it's going to be pretty awful. The sledge hammer being added to the mix though was the perfect touch. I wish I could at least hope for a semi-good brawl here but ehhhh.

 

[Troy]

I agree that the Ryder/Ziggler feud went to another level tonight and WWE are pushing it as one of the top feuds on RAW whch is great. Ziggler continues to look like a star on the show and Ryder's push gets bigger each week. It would be good if they pushed some more midcard feuds on RAW but they always seem to run out of time.

I like the touch of the sledgehammer since it actually gives them something to climb to but I still think that this should be at the RR. That way they had more time to promote the match rather than a couple of weeks. Also at the RR more fans will get to see it since the RR PPV will draw 3 times as many buyers so I don't know why it is being placed on the TLC PPV.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

I think when it comes to a feud like HHH/Nash we shouldn't harp on their upcoming matches because they will ultimately suck unless miracles happen. It's more about focusing on the developing on Raw which sadly hasn't been much since HHH got taken out.

 

[Troy]

I actually think it has been alright since HHH got taken out because if HHH was still there that would mean that 20 minutes would be taken up by HHH and Nash rather than being used on other RAW wrestlers.

I like that they have taken the WWE title scene in a different direction and they are pushing some uppermidcarders like Ziggler close to the mainevent.

Hopefully next week we get the tag team champions in action and hopefully we FINALLY see Brodus Clay.