WWE Raw 4/11/16 April 11, 2016: Is AJ Styles our next WWE World Heavyweight Champion?

[Deezy]

You saying this just actually eliminates you from any further debates about this subject sir. And, I'm gonna ask you go rewatch all of those guys I listed heel runs and take notes.

Because Austin's 01 turn was such a success right?

 

[Smart Marx]

Because Austin's 01 turn was such a success right?

I'll give you that one. But having him give McMahon hugs didn't help matters.

At least WWE tried and you can't deny The Two-Man Power Trip wasn't lit.

 

[Deezy]

He was over by Armageddon 2002. Either way, you're playing semantics.

As far as facts, most performers have occasional heel turns. John Cena is probably the only guy to go this long without one. So I don't care about Cena, but if you think Styles is never turning heel, you're deluding yourself. Also, as far as facts go, they never would have let The Rock go this long being booed without a heel turn. Even with his merchandise sales.

Rick Steamboat never turned.

GOAT Cena is in rarified air.

Rock turned Hollywood Rock because he was leaving.

 

[Smart Marx]

Rick Steamboat never turned.

GOAT Cena is in rarified air.

Rock turned Hollywood Rock because he was leaving.

Rock turned a few times and it was usually because he was starting to get booed or "stale."

Steamboat also came from a more Kayfabe protected era. I doubt he would have survived today never turning heel.

 

[Deezy]

Yeah, but you don't seem to want to turn ANYONE.

Not anyone who is over and making me money.

Hell the babyface getting the mixed reactions are a blessing, neckbeards pay to boo them and the casuals buy their shit. It's win/win.

 

[Smart Marx]

Not anyone who is over and making me money.

Hell the babyface getting the mixed reactions are a blessing, neckbeards pay to boo them and the casuals buy their shit. It's win/win.

You don't want your babyface getting mixed reactions. You want them to get angry when the heel beats them up, not cheer when the heel makes their face bloody. I don't mind Reigns right now, because his "I'm the Guy" line is gold, but at some point WWE needs to get the fans behind him or turn him heel.

 

[Petty]

I feel this argument is going nowhere. Despite us being right. Cena a hoe for not wanting to turn heel. That to me makes me look at him like dude you don't deserve to waste any more of our times, whatsoever.

 

[Smart Marx]

I feel this argument is going nowhere. Despite us being right. Cena a hoe for not wanting to turn heel. That to me makes me look at him like dude you don't deserve to waste any more of our times, whatsoever.

I don't even care about Cena turning. That ship has sailed.

 

[Petty]

Then if I hear anybody still mark out for this chump I will consider you the dumbest wrestling fan ever. Period.
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[Smart Marx]

@Deezy anyways it was fun having a little debate with you tonight.

Thanks to everyone who made this a fun and active discussion.

I love seeing a babyface Bray Wyatt and I hope we see more of these tag surprises next week.

 

[Smart Marx]

Then if I hear anybody still mark out for this chump I will consider you the dumbest wrestling fan ever. Period.
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What are you even talking about?

 

[Drew]

I'm not so are its Cena not wanting to turn heel. I've been pretty sure it's Vince and the WWE that's against it.

He still sales the hell out of merch to the kids.

 

[JakeYourBooty]

Also wanna say Dean Ambrose don't ever change

 

[Smart Marx]

Also wanna say Dean Ambrose don't ever change

I mean maybe not from this point forth, but he was a heel not that long ago.

Dean Ambrose is insanely over, though, so I could possibly see him not. He doesn't get mixed reactions, he's the guy.

It would be a shame as he takes crazy bumps as a heel.

 

[Deezy]

Rock turned a few times and it was usually because he was starting to get booed or "stale."

Steamboat also came from a more Kayfabe protected era. I doubt he would have survived today never turning heel.

Anyone who gets over during any time would get over now.

98% of pro wrestling fans knew it was a work in kayfabe times.