WWE RAW 21st November 2011 - Discussion Thread

[Andrew]

Tags no longer mean shit in WWE.

 

[John McHenry]

Stupid just stupid. If you're gonna split them at least have it be because of something better than Cena talking shit.

just think if cena'd done that weeks ago before HHH was fired lol shit was so weak.

 

[AZUCAR!]

Tags no longer mean shit in WWE.

I'm sure if Evan had not got suspended, then perhaps we could've seen the start of an Awesome-Truth/Air Boom feud start tonight

 

[Andrew]

Gayest ending ever.

Such a shit fucking RAW, wish I missed it

 

[PHX]

Don't see them doing a heel vs heel feud so obviously Truth is gonna be the face here which is a mistake. Truth's whole character right now is based on the fact that he wanna be liked by the fans and is just miles better as a heel than he is a face. Do not see the purpose of this not to mention idk where this exactly puts Cena at.

 

[AZUCAR!]

Don't see them doing a heel vs heel feud so obviously Truth is gonna be the face here which is a mistake. Truth's whole character right now is based on the fact that he wanna be liked by the fans and is just miles better as a heel than he is a face. Do not see the purpose of this not to mention idk where this exactly puts Cena at.

Sadly, looking at the current Raw roster, there's nobody new for Cena to feud with. So unfortunately, it looks as if we're gonna see Cena back in the title picture soon

 

[Andrew]

WHY RAW SUCKED TODAY

1. Cena has nobody to feud with at TLC

2. The split of Miz/Truth indicates that Tag Team Division is REALLY dead. Only Primo/Epico, Percy & Titus, Curt & Tyler are left... They're considered rookies.

3. No Brodus Clay or Jonah Hill like advertised.

4. The Mystery Promo was quickly revealed as Kane after showing his mask burning.

5. No Divas match, as much as I don't care about them... Who is Beth facing now?

6. Still three weeks from TLC, so many things were left unanswered.

7. No Morrison at all. He could have faced Ziggler again and had Ryder out instead of Ziggler/CM Punk

I give RAW a E+ Tonight.
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[Andrew]

I don't want to see another CM/ADR/Cena match.

 

[Andrew]

Brodus Clay could have attacked Cena tonight, setting up a feud ffs.

 

[SAIYANS]

Sadly, looking at the current Raw roster, there's nobody new for Cena to feud with. So unfortunately, it looks as if we're gonna see Cena back in the title picture soon

Cena and Ryder as a team for a few weeks?

 

[PHX]

Cena and Ryder as a team for a few weeks?

I'm all for it but what would be the purpose though and who would they be facing at TLC?

 

[SAIYANS]

Spice Boy should be back and forced to lose that belt like every other busted champion. Cena and Ryder getting a little run wouldn't hurt as it gets Ryder over and gives Cena something to do.

The fact is Cena is SOL the two ppvs in 2012 before Mania. He has no reason to be in the Rumble or Chamber, so he has to do something. A tag title run is something as he can elevate the belts and Ryder

They could also give him a month off, which isnt horrible since he can probably use the rest and healing time

 

[Troy]

Seriously? Seriously? Seriously? (My version of Miz and really :/) Why was there no Brodus Clay again? I am sick of them advertising him and then not putting him on the show. It makes his eventually return weaker because fans just won't care.

Good news is I read there was a Kane video package

Not sure why WWE were so quick to split Miz and Truth. Does this mean a face turn for Truth since he was the one who was blindsided?

Very happy that Barrett had another big win and that he is going to feud with Orton. They are the perfect opponents and I just hope Orton puts him over and doesn't go over him like he did to Rhodes.

 

[AF.]

This sums up my thoughts on RAW:

 

[Dale]

Punk's opening promo with Johnny was decent.

Ryder/Del Rio was pretty straight forward but at least Ryder didn't get completely squashed.

Sheamus/Swagger meh

Nash promo meh

Cody/Santino meh, but thumbs up for the start of Cody/Booker

CM Punk/Ziggler was a damn fine match. Ziggler is a fucking star, get the belt off of him asap and have him lose the subsequent rematch so he can feud with Punk leading into the Rumble for the title.

Kane promo was sweet, but presumably not linked to the other video earlier in the night.

Kofi/Wade was another fine match. I feared for Kofi at first as I figured it would have followed the nights trend and had him be squashed but fortunately that didn't happen.

Cena/Miz/Truth promo was terrible. The picture above sums my thoughts up on the way Cena was acting last night and I loved the way Miz called him out on the way he was making everything sound all rosey. Infact, did we even get a response or any thoughts from Cena on why Rock humiliated him? When Cena left the ring I was actually expecting Brodus to lay him out on the stage but we got that lame Miz/Truth stuff.

Overall a very shitty, dissapointing RAW coming off of Survivor Series, but at least there was 2 decent matches to soften the blow.