WWE RAW 1st July 2013 LIVE Discussion - Heyman Guys vs. PTP

[Chris]

Ziggler as a face is going to flop. He hasn't done anything to draw a face reaction except attack Del Rio.

This hasn't worked with The Miz, it won't work with Dolph

He's been drawing face reactions for years though, but I bet it doesn't happen now if they turn him into a goody Miz face. He needs to keep his personality somewhat, but IDK how he could really be a face and do that.

 

[Crippler]

Dolph beating a 3MB jobber, yeah that's gonna get him over.

 

[Chris]

Time to take a shot every time Jinder does a knee strike! I've missed this.

 

[Cwalker]

He's been drawing face reactions for years though, but I bet it doesn't happen now if they turn him into a goody Miz face. He needs to keep his personality somewhat, but IDK how he could really be a face and do that.

But the face reaction he's been getting is from the IWC smarks. Same thing Miz was getting back in 2010 when everyone was creaming their pants over him.

For him to be a face, he can't be "The Show Off" and I don't know if can pull it off after playing this character for years

 

[PHX]

Really was hoping they weren't gonna go with the hey all of a sudden I'm a good guy thing with Dolph as that never works.

 

[CGS]

Dolph to dump AJ plz. That'll get him over

 

[Chris]

But the face reaction he's been getting is from the IWC smarks. Same thing Miz was getting back in 2010 when everyone was creaming their pants over him.

For him to be a face, he can't be "The Show Off" and I don't know if can pull it off after playing this character for years

Miz hardly got cheered like Ziggler has been though, only when he won the belt, but other than that he got majority heel reaction. Ziggler has consistently got better face reactions than most faces every week for at least the past year.

 

[Andrew]

I will seriously LOL if Jinder wins. But we know Ziggler's winning.

JINDER KNEE STRIKE #1

 

[Crippler]

Time to take a shot every time Jinder does a knee strike! I've missed this.

Mine has been the camel clutch

 

[Chris]

KNEE STRIKES!

 

[Crippler]

out of nowhere

 

[PHX]

But the face reaction he's been getting is from the IWC smarks. Same thing Miz was getting back in 2010 when everyone was creaming their pants over him.

For him to be a face, he can't be "The Show Off" and I don't know if can pull it off after playing this character for years

Look at Shawn in the 90's it can be done it just has to be natural not forced like they did with Miz. He could be the Ocho Cinco of the WWE (Cincy days) as far as his personality goes.

 

[John McHenry]

I think you could keep Ziggler exactly as he is have him face the bad guys and give him a reason to fight for good causes and it'd work. Defending Kaitlyn would work well. Plenty of show offs that people like.

 

[Crippler]

Was fully expecting a Big E save, but he must be busy tapping AJ.

 

[Chris]

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