WWE General Discussion Thread

[Dale]

What a strange argument. It should just be a case by case whether or not someone needs a surname or not and not just a matter of fact just because of a specific gender.

Bayley isn't going to fail because she doesn't have a surname, much the same way Becky isn't a guaranteed success because she has a surname.

 

[Smart Marx]

What a strange argument. It should just be a case by case whether or not someone needs a surname or not and not just a matter of fact just because of a specific gender.

Bayley isn't going to fail because she doesn't have a surname, much the same way Becky isn't a guaranteed success because she has a surname.

To be honest I'm not sure what happened. I simply posted about Charlotte getting her surname and simply said I think the women should get surnames as well. How many Paige's are there in the world? It doesn't make sense for an athlete to go by a generic female name. At least Madonna is Madonna. Then he said something about whining? I don't recall there being any whining.

I also don't recall any mention of failing for Bayley or success for Lynch based on their surnames. It's more about respect. It's just silly to only call a Superstar by her first name. Nobody would take John Cena half as serious if he was only addressed as John. Just my two cents.

 

[Sabretooth]

To be honest I'm not sure what happened. I simply posted about Charlotte getting her surname and simply said I think the women should get surnames as well. How many Paige's are there in the world? It doesn't make sense for an athlete to go by a generic female name. At least Madonna is Madonna. Then he said something about whining? I don't recall there being any whining.

I also don't recall any mention of failing for Bayley or success for Lynch based on their surnames. It's more about respect. It's just silly to only call a Superstar by her first name. Nobody would take John Cena half as serious if he was only addressed as John. Just my two cents.

Idk I think it works better for women because it's cute. And John is the most generic name lol. Paige and Bayley are a little cooler.

 

[Smart Marx]

Idk I think it works better for women because it's cute. And John is the most generic name lol. Paige and Bayley are a little cooler.

Paige, Emma, Naomi, Bayley are all also generic, extremely common female names.

I'd understand Rihanna or what have you. Asuka is also not too bad as we don't have many Asukas here.

 

[Dale]

At the end of the day it's just a name, the people are going to get invested into the character, not the actual name. Unless you truly get a name that's designed to bury you or something, its' really not going to matter at all. Remember when 'Dolph Ziggler' was born and it was the worst name ever created? Well he hasn't had a bad career has he?

Of all the things that need to be looked at, surnames isn't anywhere near to being an issue.

 

[Smart Marx]

At the end of the day it's just a name, the people are going to get invested into the character, not the actual name. Unless you truly get a name that's designed to bury you or something, its' really not going to matter at all. Remember when 'Dolph Ziggler' was born and it was the worst name ever created? Well he hasn't had a bad career has he?

Of all the things that need to be looked at, surnames isn't anywhere near to being an issue.

I'm not saying it's pressing issue or something I'm ranting about. I just thought it was something worth fixing while WWE was already adding a surname for Charlotte. It would probably only take them a few days to come up with say 6 surnames and call it a day. If they don't, no big deal. It would just help with the whole they're all Superstars thing, if the Women stopped getting single common female ring names. That was my piece.

 

[Dale]

But what is it going to fix, that's what i'm failing to understand here. Are you suddenly going to start giving more fucks about Naomi or Carmella because they've now got a fancy surname that you'll hear once or twice a show?

I'm just failing to see why I should look at Bayley or Sasha (funny how we rarely type her surname huh) or any differently because one has a surname and the other doesn't.

 

[Smart Marx]

But what is it going to fix, that's what i'm failing to understand here. Are you suddenly going to start giving more fucks about Naomi or Carmella because they've now got a fancy surname that you'll hear once or twice a show?

I'm just failing to see why I should look at Bayley or Sasha (funny how we rarely type her surname huh) or any differently because one has a surname and the other doesn't.

It fixes their legitimacy. If these weren't women, I doubt anyone would even take the other side. There isn't anyone here who thinks a Superstar should be called John or James and call it a day. That's part of the reason I'm sure WWE added her surname. She's always been a Flair, but I think wanted a surname now because it looks better to advertising Sasha Banks vs Charlotte Flair on billboards when their main eventing shows now.

 

[Sabretooth]

Like I said it's cute for women.

 

[Smart Marx]

Like I said it's cute for women.

Women in WWE don't want to be cute anymore, they want to be Superstars. Cute went away with Divas.

 

[Deezy]

What was a false equivalency?

"Ladies like......should get surnames"

Why? Anyone complain about Rusev, Sheamus, Cesaro, Kane not having last names?

Konno, Kalisto, Viktor, Rhyno, primo, epico, big e and big Cass........to name the current roster.

Zero complaints about it.

 

[Smart Marx]

"Ladies like......should get surnames"

Why? Anyone complain about Rusev, Sheamus, Cesaro, Kane not having last names?

Konno, Kalisto, Viktor, Rhyno, primo, epico, big e and big Cass........to name the current roster.

Zero complaints about it.

90% of those names you mentioned are their last names. And for the few that aren't, OK you named the 5% of male superstars that don't have surnames (and those are tag team superstars that WWE are too lazy to give individual names to) compared the vast majority of women that don't. I never even said anything about men and wasn't making an equivalency I only stated if WWE WAS going to add Flair to Charlotte to make her sound more legit they should so it for the rest of the women. Are you seriously going to sit their and pretend you'd be OK if they decided to call Cena, John?

Also, Rhyno, Big E and Big Cass are gimmick names and would be fine if a woman had a similar gimmick name. None of those are given names.

 

[Deezy]

90% of those names you mentioned are their last names. And for the few that aren't, OK you named the 5% of male superstars that don't have surnames (and those are tag team superstars that WWE are too lazy to give individual names to) compared the vast majority of women that don't. I never even said anything about men and wasn't making an equivalency I only stated if WWE WAS going to add Flair to Charlotte to make her sound more legit they should so it for the rest of the women. Are you seriously going to sit their and pretend you'd be OK if they decided to call Cena, John?

Also, Rhyno, Big E and Big Cass are gimmick names and would be fine if a woman had a similar gimmick name. None of those are given names.

Too many strawman points made, it's "either or" here.

No one complains about one name guys and no one claims it doesn't give them legitimacy. This is simply looking for problems.

 

[Smart Marx]

Too many strawman points made, it's "either or" here.

No one complains about one name guys and no one claims it doesn't give them legitimacy. This is simply looking for problems.

There's probably only 6 guys at most there are only given male given first names. I'd also argue they should get surnames.

I don't see how this is looking for problems? The funny thing is WWE already agreed with me when it decided to add Flair to Charlotte, give Blake and Murphy back their full names on their split. I simply stated a small statement that I hope they did the same with the rest of the women. I never intended so many to take such strong umbrage to my rather small point.

And yes, I would argue the legitimacy of John Cena's name value if he was only billed as John.

 

[Dale]

But giving Charlotte a surname doesn't make her anymore legit, it's giving her the Flair name that's making her legit even though I disagree about that. Judging by what you're saying, WWE could name her Charlotte Adams or some shit and that would make her even more legit than just being billed as Charlotte.