WWE General Discussion Thread

[Kim Jong Umb]

I mean the brand split is the best thing with all that talent and yeah I don't think Scarlett is good looking her face at least shes got an alright body I guess but, I'm not cumming in my pants for her sorry. She is a good talent wrestling wise though so I give to her there.


Now I wonder if there is any news on the state of Jason Jordan is he offcially retired?

 

[Chris]

I mean the brand split is the best thing with all that talent and yeah I don't think Scarlett is good looking her face at least shes got an alright body I guess but, I'm not cumming in my pants for her sorry. She is a good talent wrestling wise though so I give to her there.


Now I wonder if there is any news on the state of Jason Jordan is he offcially retired?

Last I heard is Jordan was working as a producer but that was awhile back, I hope he can come back some day

 

[Kim Jong Umb]

Same Chris was a huge fan of the guy

 

[Kiffy Lube]

Only if they saddle him with Mama Benjamin.

 

[Smart Marx]

I'm sure they will for Fox but I won't give them much credit unless it lasts for longer than a few months without any wildcard shit. I do think the only effort for a split needs to be separate rosters though, and the presentation stuff you love so much is just extra...I mean I'd prefer it too but I wouldn't say it's not a real split just bc they use the same stage. I can't see them every going back to the '02 "real competition" between brands thing, but I could see Bischoff and Heyman treating it as a competition between each other while Vince is just laughing in the background bc they're still making him money Either way I don't really have much of an opinion on this, I'm not really excited or disinterested either way so I'm gonna hold off on any expectations until we see what happens on screen towards the end of the year.

WWE used to have A tours and B tours with different rotating rosters. But both tours were WWE tours. Having one guy work this show and that guy work that show doesn't make them separate brands. It's how the shows are operate, look and feel that make them different.

In 1998, you could have completely swapped WCW and WWF rosters, but WWF would still be WWF and WCW would be WCW because they'd still run, look and feel like their respective brands. One of the biggest complaints people had about TNA in the later years was it started copying WWE too much. It was WWE lite. You watch competition to see them do something the other one isn't doing.

I don't think I'm alone in this considering WWE's original split lasted 6 years with no bumps in the road, but as soon they dropped the PPV, it wasn't long before they started merging the belts, dropping unique divisions, and within 3 years it was gone altogether. The time table for this most recent one seemed to be about the same. When did they drop the exclusive PPV 2017? So less than 2 years for the wild card rule.

But, that's besides the point. What I meant was I don't think WWE cares too much to keep it going considering they always come to the same conclusion after not too long that having full access to your rosters is better for your writing and the ratings you want to maintain.

 

[Chris]

WWE used to have A tours and B tours with different rotating rosters. But both tours were WWE tours. Having one guy work this show and that guy work that show doesn't make them separate brands. It's how the shows are operate, look and feel that make them different.

In 1998, you could have completely swapped WCW and WWF rosters, but WWF would still be WWF and WCW would be WCW because they'd still run, look and feel like their respective brands. One of the biggest complaints people had about TNA in the later years was it started copying WWE too much. It was WWE lite. You watch competition to see them do something the other one isn't doing.

I don't think I'm alone in this considering WWE's original split lasted 6 years with no bumps in the road, but as soon they dropped the PPV, it wasn't long before they started merging the belts, dropping unique divisions, and within 3 years it was gone altogether. The time table for this most recent one seemed to be about the same. When did they drop the exclusive PPV 2017? So less than 2 years for the wild card rule.

But, that's besides the point. What I meant was I don't think WWE cares too much to keep it going considering they always come to the same conclusion after not too long that having full access to your rosters is better for your writing and the ratings you want to maintain.

I'm not disagreeing with any of that though, I'm just saying separate presentation is more of a bonus to me for a brand split than a necessity lol rosters appearing on only one show with very very minimum crossover (only for special shows or maybe those dumb Survivor Series invasions) is all it takes for me to consider it a split. Anything else is just a nice bonus that I'd prefer them to do but I'm not gonna say it's mandatory. I don't consider Raw and SmackDown competition, so I'm not watching one or the other because it's different I'm watching both bc they're WWE and I like wrestling

 

[Smart Marx]

I'm not disagreeing with any of that though, I'm just saying separate presentation is more of a bonus to me for a brand split than a necessity lol rosters appearing on only one show with very very minimum crossover (only for special shows or maybe those dumb Survivor Series invasions) is all it takes for me to consider it a split. Anything else is just a nice bonus that I'd prefer them to do but I'm not gonna say it's mandatory. I don't consider Raw and SmackDown competition, so I'm not watching one or the other because it's different I'm watching both bc they're WWE and I like wrestling

I think that’s where we differ because I honestly don’t want separate rosters at all. I personally think WWE is always creatively better when it has access to all their top draws and can carry stories through both shows. The only reason I liked 2002-2008 Ruthless Aggression was because they made the shows feel different. They could have even shared the roster and I still would have thought it was great because the shows were different.

Same thing with NXT. That’s a brand that actually looks and feels different and still feels that way even when main roster guys like Cesaro, Breeze or Fandango come back. Even UK and main NXT feel different from each other in ways and share some roster space.

That said, if they’re doing it again, Fox gotta make sure they get equal amounts of the top draws and make the show at least feel as much watch as Raw. Even if the brand still feels like Raw lite or the B show.

 

[Chris]

I think that’s where we differ because I honestly don’t want separate rosters at all. I personally think WWE is always creatively better when it has access to all their top draws and can carry stories through both shows. The only reason I liked 2002-2008 Ruthless Aggression was because they made the shows feel different. They could have even shared the roster and I still would have thought it was great because the shows were different.

Same thing with NXT. That’s a brand that actually looks and feels different and still feels that way even when main roster guys like Cesaro, Breeze or Fandango come back. Even UK and main NXT feel different from each other in ways and share some roster space.

That said, if they’re doing it again, Fox gotta make sure they get equal amounts of the top draws and make the show at least feel as much watch as Raw. Even if the brand still feels like Raw lite or the B show.

Oh I'm not saying I want separate rosters either, I can take it or leave it personally. I'm just saying that's all it takes for me to consider it a brand split. I just don't rank the shows feeling different as high as you, but I wouldn't even say we disagree on that either bc I still would prefer them do that, it's just not a huge priority to me.

 

[Deezy]

Separate rosters mean nothing.....there's hundreds of talent on both and most are not used.....brand split just means some of those performers have a chance for more tv time.

 

[Jimmy King]

Acclaimed luchador Jorge Bolly, former football player Edgar Lopez join WWEPC

The WWE Performance Center has announced the signing of Mexico’s Jorge “El Hijo del Fantasma” Bolly and Edgar Lopez.

www.wwe.com

 

[Chris]

I've heard of El Hijo del Fantasma and I barely keep up with Lucha Libre so that must mean it's a good signing

 

[Jimmy King]

I've heard of El Hijo del Fantasma and I barely keep up with Lucha Libre so that must mean it's a good signing

He was King Cuerno in Lucha Underground.

 

[Jimmy King]

NXT to air live on USA Network and WWE Network on Sept. 18 and 25

Get important details on how to catch all the action of NXT’s first two live episodes.

www.wwe.com

 

[Chris]

He was King Cuerno in Lucha Underground.

I never got around to watching it lol

 

[Jimmy King]

I never got around to watching it lol

I watched it every now and then but never watched it religiously.