WWE General Discussion Thread

[Smart Marx]

There's no problem using real names on Twitter, having reality TV shows that in half kayfabe, half out of it. Talking about their favorite stories to interviewers, but when you actually talking up a current angle, don't say shit like you wish you could go off script to beat their asses for real. That just takes you out of the play going on. People talk shit about kayfabe like we don't know it's dead, but The Rock doesn't stop every couple of minutes during Fast and Furious to remind the audience he doesn't actually jump that car over the other car and in real life he'd have killed Vin Diesel in the first 5 minutes.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Kofi Kingston openly said he wasn't in charactor on Raw when he wasndoing a heel promo.

Triple H has talked about their writers on TV.

Fuck sakes they tried this shit with CM Punk and his highly acclaimed pipe bomb and did it he same shit wit his wife and then let Paige cut the same promo.

And I watch pro wrestling like I watch action movies.....not for a second do I think the movie is real.

Kofi is a wink wink nudge nudge moment.

CM Punk and other worked shots still further a storyline. They served a purpose, but still had the tinge of "we can get you to believe this is real."

What Ronda did is none of that. She flat out said, "Fuck wrestling and anyone who watches it" with no story to further.

That explains your viewpoints, you fail to get invested in anything.

 

[Smart Marx]

Gee....I don't know, maybe by having Becky and Charlotte work their match stiffer than a wrestler with blue chews?

Nobody ever watch Japan in the 00s? They brought in Pride guys to do the same shit.

It's nothing new.

Working stiffer is fine, but that doesn't work if Ronda still says without the script I'd kill them.

 

[Swamps]

She's making excuses for her loss to Becky at Mania by breaking the cardinal rule. I'd say it's embarrassing that you're fine with this shit.

No what is embarrassing, is you are getting worked and not realizing it. This is the role she is playing in this feud. She is the arrogant heel, that is acting as if she is above wrestling. Did you forget about the tweets between her and Lynch? These three wrestlers want to be the final match at Wrestlemania. They're trying to generate as much interest in this match. Guess what? It's working! I was a skeptic at first, and thought WWE was doing the "We so Woke" agenda by having this the final match on Mania. However, these three wrestlers have busted their asses on camera, off camera, on the internet, etc, to earn that spot.

Keep getting worked, G.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Wrestling should be treated like a play. You know it's not real, and you know none of the characters are real. However, it is the actor's job to get you invested. Unless the play is a fourth wall breaking comedy, (I.E. Much Ado About Nothing) then there is no reason for an actor to break character.

 

[Smart Marx]

No what is embarrassing, is you are getting worked and not realizing it. This is the role she is playing in this feud. She is the arrogant heel, that is acting as if she is above wrestling. Did you forget about the tweets between her and Lynch? These three wrestlers want to be the final match at Wrestlemania. They're trying to generate as much interest in this match. Guess what? It's working! I was a skeptic at first, and thought WWE was doing the "We so Woke" agenda by having this the final match on Mania. However, these three wrestlers have busted their asses on camera, off camera, on the internet, etc, to earn that spot.

Keep getting worked, G.

Not liking a particular worker's use of shoot promos, doesn't mean you're getting worked.

I actually like Ronda for the most part, but this doesn't work.

 

[Deezy]

Kofi is a wink wink nudge nudge moment.

CM Punk and other worked shots still further a storyline. They served a purpose, but still had the tinge of "we can get you to believe this is real."

What Ronda did is none of that. She flat out said, "Fuck wrestling and anyone who watches it" with no story to further.

That explains your viewpoints, you fail to get invested in anything.

That's goofy, if I like something, that means I'm invested.

Also.....if Ronda is here to play heel, she is going to be the biggest heel on the business.....and guess what? It's working.

Working stiffer is fine, but that doesn't work if Ronda still says without the script I'd kill them.

How is that different than Taz promos in the 90s?

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

No what is embarrassing, is you are getting worked and not realizing it. This is the role she is playing in this feud. She is the arrogant heel, that is acting as if she is above wrestling. Did you forget about the tweets between her and Lynch? These three wrestlers want to be the final match at Wrestlemania. They're trying to generate as much interest in this match. Guess what? It's working! I was a skeptic at first, and thought WWE was doing the "We so Woke" agenda by having this the final match on Mania. However, these three wrestlers have busted their asses on camera, off camera, on the internet, etc, to earn that spot.

Keep getting worked, G.

Then why is she in it? Brock admits he's only in it for the money, but even he has a certain respect for it.

 

[Smart Marx]

That's goofy, if I like something, that means I'm invested.

Also.....if Ronda is here to play heel, she is going to be the biggest heel on the business.....and guess what? It's working.


How is that different than Taz promos in the 90s?

Taz claimed he would kill someone without the script?

If he said that, that was dumb then too and then I'd laugh.

 

[Deezy]

Wrestling should be treated like a play. You know it's not real, and you know none of the characters are real. However, it is the actor's job to get you invested. Unless the play is a fourth wall breaking comedy, (I.E. Much Ado About Nothing) then there is no reason for an actor to break character.

Actors break character when the audience isn't buying the act.

You think any "smart fan" is going to do that stupid shit of cheering the heel because "they appreciate their heel work" for Rousey after this?

No.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Taz claimed he would kill someone without the script?

If he said that, that was dumb then too and then I'd laugh.

I remember a funny anecdote about Taz and Kurt Angle actually.

Angle went up to Foley during Royal Rumble 2000 and was like, "Hey, Mick... what do I do if Taz tries to 'test me'?"

Naive Angle is best Angle.

 

[Deezy]

Then why is she in it? Brock admits he's only in it for the money, but even he has a certain respect for it.

Helloooooo.

It was the fans who turned on her first, now she's lashing out at them. She explained it on Raw before she attacked Becky.

Now she's going full tilt boogie.

 

[Swamps]

Not liking a particular worker's use of shoot promos, doesn't mean you're getting worked.

I actually like Ronda for the most part, but this doesn't work.

I disagree. I feel it is working. Ronda was accused of disrespecting the WWE and feeling she was above the business by Becky. A lot of fans did buy into that. So why not go with it, if it is getting a reaction?

All three have also been stiff as hell with one another, so this has a sense of actual heat / realism.

 

[Deezy]

It's like people haven't watched rasslin from the mid 90s to 2000.

 

[Smart Marx]

I disagree. I feel it is working. Ronda was accused of disrespecting the WWE and feeling she was above the business by Becky. A lot of fans did buy into that. So why not go with it, if it is getting a reaction?

All three have also been stiff as hell with one another, so this has a sense of actual heat / realism.

Being worked means you're buying it. I don't buy she legit thinks these things. It's just how WWE has decided to market her and turn her heel. I just don't care for it. I'm not turning on Ronda, though. I still think he's a decent worker and look forward to maybe see her main event the main show of the year. I would just prefer she not talk like Becky shouldn't be there also.