WS Mafia: Reloaded - GAME THREAD

[Banez]

Okay I realize analyzing Mitchs entrance posts is a science nobody has any sort of pristine record in, but if you say Brutus and Jeff look like shit, you should probably ask yourself if it makes sense for them to be aligned. Because the way I see it, Jeff pushing Brutus hard makes that extremely unlikely.

The same thing goes for Banez, in his huge ass multiquote earlier he got Jeff and Brutus as suspects. From where I stand the two just absolutely aren't aligned.

I'm judging from my Music Mafia where he basically didn't bother with his PR anymore after like 10 posts.

If i had to choose which one is scum, it would be Brutus over Jeff because i'm doublevoter and he's supposedly belowed townie. He's been tunneling on Lethal which is probably his PR role as well, or then he fakes it.

Jeff could be powerful role but his refusal to claim does not any favours for him.

Whats your take on Chris?

 

[Alco]

No reason for me to delay this *ahem*

I’m beloved townie, takes one extra vote to kill me. Cba to read back tonight, will do tomorrow if I have the opportunity.

Ugh. I think this claim's a bit poopy tbh. Gonna check Chris out some more in a minute, but this doesn't exactly convince me re: Brutus

 

[Tweet]

vote Banez

On reflection that big multiquote reminds me of our recent co-scum game where he made a big post like that to propel himself back into the game. Not to mention his progression around me looks inconsistent - he thinks I'm off and has me as one of his suspects, but then his take on my case on PHEN0M who is now confirmed isn't that I'm scum pushing town, he thinks I was probably just wrong. If you already think I'm suspicious and then it turns out the big case I had was against a townie, it would seem like a more natural progression to push your alleged suspicions of me - which by all accounts should have further increased - instead of notching it up as "he was probably just wrong" and proceeding to vote someone else.

 

[PHEN0M]

I'm bothered how he has Phen0m as null and doesn't even mention the fact he's confirmed town.

And he has interacted with me but apparently has no opinion one way or another about my play so far.

1. XENUS #1
2. Haza
3. Rugrat
4. Barry (Grimhail Gorbachev)
5. PHEN0M
7. Jeff
8. Chris (Nikita Cherischev)
9. CP
10. Mitch
11. Skybox
12. Tweet
13. Lethal
14. Magic
15. Alco
16. Laughable Chimpy
17. Big Man
18. BANEZY
19. Brutus
20. Odo

Brutus read has been explained. Quite uneasy with CP as I think his reasoning to further push my wagon was fabricated, and his own play around Brutus has been weird. Don't feel great about Tweet either, as obviously his NOM push and read have fallen flat on their face, would not mind pressuring after Brutus.

Xenus town read I have also explained, his vote on me makes sense from his pov, so i am fine with it. Phenom is confirmed.
Big man slight town lean as his reply to me saying I would not claim means he was trying to get a read off others and I kind of fucked up his play. This kind of play looks like town big man.

Odo - null, not enough content, possible lack of interest
Magic - null lack of content
Mitch - I'm going to say null as his reasoning for voting me could make sense from his pov, but it being the only thing he did and commented on as far as i remember bring him back to null.
sky - ???
Chris - I remember most of his posts being fairly towny, but he's good at blending and not making waves so, will wait.
Barry - ??? because of meltdown, but the post i quoted should be useful for town once we get a brutus flip
Haza - sheeped and specced but hasnt made a case himself, but hasn't done anything outrageous, so null?

I think that's all the people who have posted?

He didn’t color me in but he said it in the post FWIW

 

[Tweet]

If i had to choose which one is scum, it would be Brutus over Jeff because i'm doublevoter and he's supposedly belowed townie. He's been tunneling on Lethal which is probably his PR role as well, or then he fakes it.

Jeff could be powerful role but his refusal to claim does not any favours for him.

Whats your take on Chris?

I agree that the DV and the Loved are probably not both scum. They could both be town tho.

Chris has seemed pretty inoffensive and has asked a couple questions here and there that I liked at the time, would have to read back to remind myself which ones they were tho.

 

[Alco]

Not a whole lot bc I've been pretty distracted today. But I really don't like Brutus's vote switching. You were weird at first but I have liked your play more recently. I have a severe lack of town reads though, I remember liking Rugrat's early posts but there weren't many I believe. Grim is probably town as well.

Yeah this isn't very great. From what I saw in my readback you were on long enough to form at least some independent thoughts.

You asked questions, yes, but anyone can ask questions, basically. It's what you do with 'em afterwards. I can see Magic's point better now (and this happened after Magic's initial readback!)

 

[Banez]

He didn’t color me in but he said it in the post FWIW

Missed that one line, i really should read everything twice.

 

[Banez]

vote Banez

On reflection that big multiquote reminds me of our recent co-scum game where he made a big post like that to propel himself back into the game. Not to mention his progression around me looks inconsistent - he thinks I'm off and has me as one of his suspects, but then his take on my case on PHEN0M who is now confirmed isn't that I'm scum pushing town, he thinks I was probably just wrong. If you already think I'm suspicious and then it turns out the big case I had was against a townie, it would seem like a more natural progression to push your alleged suspicions of me - which by all accounts should have further increased - instead of notching it up as "he was probably just wrong" and proceeding to vote someone else.

So you are voting me to lynch then?

Both could be town roles but you're still voting me for lynch? Sure thing.

 

[PHEN0M]

@Jeffatron why haza?

haza looks town to me.

You don’t feel his play around Jeff and stating he wouldn’t blind lynch him and then contradicting it and being forced into some reasoning for still being on the wagon now and throughout the day is sketchy at all?

 

[PHEN0M]

Brutus’ claim is whatever, wouldn’t deter me from lynching today. I am very interested in seeing where this Chris thing goes.

Unvote, vote: Chris

 

[Tweet]

So you are voting me to lynch then?

Both could be town roles but you're still voting me for lynch? Sure thing.

Getting peoples thoughts on it beforehand and seeing your reaction should ideally come before lynching.

I should have probably talked to you first before dropping a big post like that, so tell me - if you thought I was suspicious to begin with and with the knowledge that the one big case I made so far is now confirmed town, why aren't you pushing me?

 

[Tweet]

I'm much like last game in that I don't see the case on Chris at all

 

[Alco]

vote Chris

I feel comfortable with this tbh

 

[Xenus]

How do you expand the post reply box on this forum? Typing a multi quote in this little box is a bitch. Anywho... these are the posts that jumped out at me around the flip.

Sweet release, I'm off to bed for today.

I expect to come back to content that serves to change my opinion of you, if not I guess prepare for more leg humping and me trying to get my top scum read lynched

Ya okay that's sort of a blah blah answer. N0M and Haza could be co-scum methinks.

Anyway smell ya geeks later

Tweets went balls deep on Phenom here. I know scum wouldn't know for sure that Phenom is Town at this moment, but I don't see scum pushing this this hard and this early - it borders on tunnelling as Phenom hasn't claimed. Trying to get your top scum read lynched? Seems like frustrated town to me.

Have a town lean.

Wait there Tweets,

kill Phen0m

I'm off to bed soon, we're either right or I've just continued the trend of "E-V fucks up again"

Jesus Christ

This is immediately after the daykill.

Please tell me Poyser didn't give him a gun

And then this is about half a page later. Scum trying to look good off the flip, maybe? I'd mentioned at this point that Phenom was townie to me, but I had no confidence at this stage that Phenom would flip town - it seems pretty sure.

Just gonna put this here too as the reaction to the flip. Not my reaction at all - I'd never trade a townie for someone who's confirmed town. Town reads get you killed.

Well at least it confirms N0M so he's all blue.

Do you actually have a PR? Because you've missed it here and in several other places. On WS does missing your PR not merit a modkill? It always used to.

its worth noting that the daykill role pm had a specific note about bypassing any investigation immunity

I like this. Not enough to change my initial thoughts on you, but enough to defer them for now. It's a good thing to point this out because otherwise there might be Godfather/SK spec as POE comes into play. Gold star.

I'm happy to follow Magic based on this and vote Chris

 

[Banez]

Getting peoples thoughts on it beforehand and seeing your reaction should ideally come before lynching.

I should have probably talked to you first before dropping a big post like that, so tell me - if you thought I was suspicious to begin with and with the knowledge that the one big case I made so far is now confirmed town, why aren't you pushing me?

I had my vote on you most of the night, some people dont read you town as much either but nobody was interested pushing you along with me. So i switched my vote to back a confirmed town in Phen0m until i discovered that Brutus had already claimed so i switched to support Magic's wagon.

Now you are here and your posts today look better than what i saw from you yesterday.