WS Mafia: Reloaded - GAME THREAD

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I would actually agree with this and will likely be of the same stance.

looks good for haza(agreed with not blinding lynch jeff under any circumstances)

I think there’s definitely merit to what he’s doing
Remember those questions I asked earlier? That’s what I think is going on rn. Have we weighed out that he could have a powerful role that he doesn’t want to out so early?
Could he be going about this is a different way? Absolutely.

I don’t feel the need to park my vote on anybody rn. It’s Day 1, am I not allowed to switch votes and see how people react?

There was a whole conversation on it? What do you think he’s doing?

Phenom is fine. It’s when he’s doing stuff you need to worry.

I’m happy with a Raikonnen/Jeff/Brutus approach right now. Liking Banez and tweets.

I think he does. Should be noted though if come mass claim time he claims VT

Or you know.. he claims. I’m not keen on outing power roles but the thing is he’s probably gonna get shot tonight anyway if he’s hard softing a power role and isn’t scum so it’s just a stupid thing to do full stop

this doesnt seem like a scum/scum interaction between brutus/xenus to me either, so i still think he's probably town.

he also town reads phen0m when tweet begins pushing him.

 

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Based on questions they asked others I feel pretty good about penciling Big Man, Chris and Rugrat into the town column so far, and maybe CP as well. Barry and Banez also seem town on meta without the asking questions I liked part. Early town lean on Xenus has more or less dissipated into null. Scum read wise, if you read my posts even badly you'll figure out who I'd daykill if I had the chance.

except rugrat, tweet's reads were on point as far as town reads.

I remember the same thing, but he also did it when he was scum. His voting Magic or not should probably be NAI, especially as he took a break from Mafia too.

@Sky what game was that

You may be on to something here

Vote Barry

this is kinda random since the wagons were between jeff/brutus, but she was catching up so that could explain that.

Wait there Tweets,

kill Phen0m

I'm off to bed soon, we're either right or I've just continued the trend of "E-V fucks up again"

breh you know you could have, like, discussed it :

Even if he were to outright admit himself as scum, you wouldn't vote him? This is just bad mentality

this is kinda a useless post, no, like he would obviously vote them at that point lmao.

This is not a bad shout. I'm disturbed by how much I like CP and think he's town

i guess this is mostly different than what everyone else is doing.

I believe her saying me being overly aggressive to you to keep up "appearances" when you've seen my scum last game where I was quieter and shifted into the background more to get a feel of things is disingenuous. I have zero reason to be so up front and like this as scum in the early game when I can easily choose to do what I did last game.

Her also saying I'm hiding behind my PR when as the game has gone on isn't the case at all and is more of a tertiary thing I have to remember. Trying to have as much fun with the PR and getting it out of the way early and hiding behind it are two separate things.

This is pure WIFOM as well but I don't know about you, but do you think scum me is going to put a GOAT era 2012 PR gambit on the hope people bite and give me an easy town read for it with such a risky play? Sky acknowledges that it's a PR but she literally thinks that I'm scum for reasons.

ya barry is obvious town.

And we're finally back to page 29.

Town reads so far
N0M - confirmed
CP - is being pertinent and making strong points, feels like the classic town CP we haven't gotten to see in a long time
Haza - I particularly like just earlier, that he was quick to shut down "N0M could be the GF!!". But he's been saying stuff I agree with most of the time. Guess I'm easily pleased

Scum reads so far
Barry - already explained
Jeff - uncooperative and not producing the deep discussion I'd expect
Brutus - bizarre play around Jeff, says he wants to vote Jeff then scattershot votes literally anyone else? A distraction play? Something??? WTF

Unvote
Vote Jeff

The most useful place my vote could be that I want it to be

sky how come you scum read both jeff and brutus even tho they both obviously couldnt be scum?

 

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1. XENUS #1
2. Haza
3. Rugrat
4. Barry (Grimhail Gorbachev) E-V v2
5. PHEN0M
7. Jeff
9. CP
10. Mitch
11. Skybox
12. Tweet
13. Lethal
15. Alco
16. Laughable Chimpy Chris v2
17. Big Man
18. BANEZY
20. Odo

idk if lethal looks better or not with brutus voting him after moving off jeff.

sky i dont really get. she votes jeff, but scum reads brutus, but also did seem genuinely to be reading back.

i didnt really like odo's play on the beginning of the brutus wagon.

rugrat's play on jeff's wagon i also didnt like. he seemed to be adding fuel to the fire while never even addressing brutus at any point. i think someone else mentioned this too.

 

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Hey I’ve been at work all day and I’m here. Not liking Jeff refusing to claim, as he’s often the one asking for claims. Nice to see my good friend N0M confirmed town. This whole Sky/Grim fight is something. I’m liking Grim more though. However I agree with Sky that Brutus and Jeff look like shit.

Vote Jeff[/]

Claim time Jeff


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Just the whole not claiming thing when we were in opposite shoes Jeff would be demanding a claim from me


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this is actually pretty fair reasoning by mitch for voting jeff over brutus. like reasonable.

if his only post other vote all day phase was just brutus after this then rugrat might be right that he's just town(not that that makes rugrat not fwiw).

Jeff 7 - Big Man, Haza, CP, Xenus, Odo, Sky, Mitch

this is the wagon if I'm reading right. Not much to say here. Full of people I read town (Haza, CP) or have no reason to read scum (most of the rest). Only mild exception is Mitch as he's just barrelled in not thinking about the number of votes on the wagon, but I wouldn't expect much better so it's eh

this seems not typical to scum!sky? i mean the last time she showed greater effort into scumhunting she was scum so it does make me hesitant but her later posts were better/she didnt feel scummy or omgusy against cp when he started suspecting her.

Liking Jeff more now

Not liking Sky or Brutus

^ya id say cp is strong town with this combined with his vote on brutus after.

I still can't find any logic in Brutus' vote switching reading back and wtf are the posts towards Lethal unless this is some new gimmick?

Vote Brutus

^lol my bad chris v1.

people shifting off jeff without trying to force his claim out first look better.

Jeff is engaged now and his frustration with my pressure feels genuine if not delayed

Also was thinking you were lacking in bloodthirst and coming off a bit awkward compared to normal so the fact Jeff was reaching the same conclusions (and not just focusing on the Brutus opening) makes me feel better about him as well

With Brutus he's clearly just making shit up lmao

^good post/calling out brutus when he didnt need to walk back on his jeff read at all..

Seems like Barry is going through something right now, pretty sure he's widely town read so not sure why he'd be blowing up like that

^also good.

You know what, this feels earnest. If this weren't legit and it were just scum Barry, he'd just duck.

Consider my read walked back

this is a good reaction to the barry blow-up too. i think as scum sky would be calling for his modkill openly in the thread because she gets like that too. so she can be a town lean too.

vote Brutus

^ya.

 

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I've come to a realisation. Jeff is voting Brutus but not the other way around.

Unvote
Vote Brutus

I get the feeling Brutus could know Jeff's alignment.

ya sky can be town too

Youre getting modkilled for blatently hinting your character mate. There isn't gonna be a lynch

haza basically confirmed town for this and the last quote. if he wanted barry modkilled he would have done it in a scum qt. same with asking brute not to claim, no way a scum teammate says that for another scum teammate lmao.

Not a whole lot bc I've been pretty distracted today. But I really don't like Brutus's vote switching. You were weird at first but I have liked your play more recently. I have a severe lack of town reads though, I remember liking Rugrat's early posts but there weren't many I believe. Grim is probably town as well.

these were reads that i wanted to see in the first 15 pages. i think it's cause you dont use the word scum/town often. :

Don't do it Brute! If Jeff doesn't have to claim neither do you!

^what i said above.

 

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how is there is somehow 2402 posts and yet im in the only period of the game where there is seemingly no one hell playing. :

 

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what's the case against xenus?

chris why didnt you shoot chimp, aka yourself.

or whoever the vig is.

why does this always happen.

Why did you expect someone you read scum (and i'm talking about the strongman), to actually do what you wanted?

Brutus (10) - Mitch, Banez, Tweet, Haza, Big Man, Rugrat, PHEN0M, Chris, Jeff


so ya, id probably be looking at one of mitch/rugrat/banez as it's doubtful all are town on there. ill look at other wagons later too

So i restart the Brutus wagon but you suspect me still? I'm cool with that. But you know what i find ironic? You never moved off your vote from Chris yet you critizised him for not shooting. Double standards are fun ain't they?

Btw, you're on your reads: Brutus/Banez/Chris 1-1.

Now which side do you think i will flip?

 

[Banez]

1. XENUS #1
2. Haza
3. Rugrat
4. Barry (Grimhail Gorbachev) E-V v2
5. PHEN0M
7. Jeff
9. CP
10. Mitch
11. Skybox
12. Tweet
13. Lethal
15. Alco
16. Laughable Chimpy Chris v2
17. Big Man
18. BANEZY
20. Odo

idk if lethal looks better or not with brutus voting him after moving off jeff.

sky i dont really get. she votes jeff, but scum reads brutus, but also did seem genuinely to be reading back.

i didnt really like odo's play on the beginning of the brutus wagon.

rugrat's play on jeff's wagon i also didnt like. he seemed to be adding fuel to the fire while never even addressing brutus at any point. i think someone else mentioned this too.

Why is CP town?

 

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No reason for me to delay this *ahem*

I’m beloved townie, takes one extra vote to kill me. Cba to read back tonight, will do tomorrow if I have the opportunity.

Do we test this?

^lol this confirms sky as town.

he wasn't actually beloved right? sky asking to test his claim would kill him.

in any case, i assume we have tons of time, we can decide on brutus tomorrow ( i would be in favour of lynching currently, obv)

vote haza

out for the eve

@Jeffatron why haza?

haza looks town to me.

^@jeffatron was this early enough at trying to shut down your wagon on haza(and for the rest of it)?

 

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Why is CP town?

his push on jeff looked like a town!cp and his play on brutus afterwards/jumping off.

 

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1. XENUS #1
2. Haza
3. Rugrat
4. Barry (Grimhail Gorbachev) E-V v2
5. PHEN0M
7. Jeff
9. CP
10. Mitch
11. Skybox
12. Tweet
13. Lethal
15. Alco
16. Laughable Chimpy Chris v2
17. Big Man
18. BANEZY
20. Odo

rugrat/odo are my suggestions are my top two scum reads(along with chimp/chris, but that's more due to poe and chimp just not playing scum games). if mitch is only other action in the day phase was voting brutus then ya he's probably town too, but that's conditional on that being pretty much the only thing he did.


idk why we didnt shoot chimp v.1. Id be down to lynch any of my scum reads if people dont wanna lynch me.

vote rugrat

 

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his push on jeff looked like a town!cp and his play on brutus afterwards/jumping off.

He also wanted to start new wagon on Sky 12 hours before day 1 deadline. Creating a situation of over 10 wagons at the time.

And while he "supported" Brutus wagon, he never unvoted from Sky.

 

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I’m having a bad night so I probably won’t be around until tomorrow but since this Jeff thing isn’t going anywhere

Unvote

Vote Brutus


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ok ya mitch is probable town for this. dropping in just to say youre going through shit and dropping a vote on your teammate is probably not something mitch does to his teammate or like anyone does lol.

Okay finished readback till post #649.

E-V having a killshot and using it on phenom was nice, atleast we got one confirmed town from it. Some would like them to use it on magic or Odo but honestly guys if you wanted that then you guys haven't advanced on the level where you can read them by PLAY. Not that i'm on that level either because i ain't, but seeing some of you suggest that made me chuckle.



Gonna get the fluff out of the way first, i thought that too but who would misspell Kimi Räikkönen?



This post didn't age well as others mentioned. But yet nobody else is voting for you except me.



Another post that doesn't age well, guess you were just wrong about Phen0m.



Why was it a weird post?



He's on 5 based on the latest vote count, i'll help along.

unvote
vote Brutus



You haven't played for a while, takes little time to convince people to do that.



If it's fake PR, why aren't you voting him at the time you made this post?



So your scum read Barry is voting another scum read of yours in Brutus. Do you think it's bussing or do you think one of them would be town?



And your opinion of this Banez fella is?



Then i suggest you get reading

Should take like few hours with your pace since you comb every post through.



So 5 votes is enough and you're just not ready to commit? (7 votes after my vote)



So you've seen me post, replied to my posts or stuff but yet got no opinion or idea of my alignment whatsoever. Yet Magic with 1post at the time of you posting this is null to you?

Also how do you not have Phenom as confirmed town in your colors? This readlist just seems like you put something together. You read Brutus as scum but yet your vote is on Haza because of ??? reasons?

Haza is null on your read list too yet your vote is on him. Good talk.



little late but why did you unvote later?



No, i wasn't. I did vote you because as scum i wouldn't try to draw your attention to me. That wouldn't benefit me at all on early game. Ofc i didn't do that this game either but i know what alignment i am and i'm not worried.

The only case i'm worried is if scum would have somekind of role stealing role where they can use my doublevote on quicklynch.



Not much opinions on people yet. Tweet seems off, Jeff's read list was bizarre and Brutus has been just tunneling lethal.. i guess Brutus is someone else who's tunneling Lethal or so Lethal usually would say.

Claim from Brutus would be good place to start.

Not fan of "i'm not claiming and it's good for you guys that i dont" sure it could be protective role or vig but same time, not claiming is pretty damn lame.

Imagine rest of us just refusing to claim coz "well the wagon is shit and you guys have no case"

Yet in Jeff's case Big Man made a soft case, and people hopped on initiating Jeff refusal to claim. Then E-V kills Phen0m but dies instead so Phen0m is confirmed town and Jeff doesn't even aknowledge that in his reads list.

Just looked back and Chris hasn't made one actual read.

Unvote
Vote Chris

We're still almost certainly lynching Brutus at end of Day but there's STUFF to be done. Is the Brutus wagon in any way tainted to you because Chris is on it?

Hold on.

Why are you so hungry for Brutus lynch without claim?

He's in claim territory and should claim first.

He claimed beloved townie IIRC

Oh?

Gonna look that up.

^lmao pretty sure banez is town from this interaction too.

 

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1. XENUS #1
2. Haza
3. Rugrat
4. Barry (Grimhail Gorbachev) E-V v2
5. PHEN0M
7. Jeff
9. CP
10. Mitch
11. Skybox
12. Tweet
13. Lethal
15. Alco
16. Laughable Chimpy Chris v2
17. Big Man
18. BANEZY
20. Odo

xenus is the town read im least sure of, but i still think he seems town(on page 45).

but the entire rest of scum is left in rugrat/odo/chimp/alco/lethal.

id say in that order.


game solved, good night.

 

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He also wanted to start new wagon on Sky 12 hours before day 1 deadline. Creating a situation of over 10 wagons at the time.

And while he "supported" Brutus wagon, he never unvoted from Sky.

banez he was leading the lynch on jeff and then before jeff claimed removed it and his own support when he was the pushing it the hardest

he then gave his support to the brutus wagon, the scum wagon, by unvoting jeff and going to brutus. this is before sky, yes, but this all put brutus at risk for literally no reason when jeff was still refusing to claim and thus there was always an excuse for scum to stay on the jeff wagon.

cp isn't scum.

he also defended chris from me while going after me. he is right that he could have easily just sheeped me onto chris and then pinned the blame on me afterwards if he wanted. it's an easy play, but he defended chris prior and was calling chris town.