WrestleMania Would anyone have a huge problem with Cena winning?
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What are the chances he holds it for a year, setting up Rock / Cena 3 at WM.
It's unlikely but I can see it happening.
It's unlikely but I can see it happening.
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He has movies to film later this year, so no. Assuming you're referring To The Rock and not Cena.
I think Cena winning the second bout and then going with the whole "They're 1-1, who will win the rubber match" is the best way to go with it since there will obviously be a third match in the future. To make their third and final match special, they could finally unify the belts by having The Rock win the World Heavyweight Championship and then have him job to WWE Champion Cena and unify the championships, although I'd absolutely hate that. The second ever undisputed champion (Jericho being the first) should be someone new(er), not someone who would have been the top guy for the last nine years at that point. But it's something I could see happening.
I really hope the rubber match happens at Summerslam, though. I don't want to be cheated out of Cena/Undertaker for next year's event or have three Wrestlemanias in a row centered around the same exact feud (would feel almost like four, since the build to WM27 even felt more like Rock/Cena than Cena/Miz.)
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Yeah I was talking about Cena, in an odd way I could see them going that way for the rubber stamp match.
People say that Cena needs this win, why? Cena's far and away the biggest star on the roster and has been overpushed to nearly untouchable status, and that's one of the main reasons why he's been rejected by so much of the fanbase. What's putting him over the Rock going to do? It'll just make him look bigger, and imo that's the last thing the Cena character needs. So I'd have a problem with it in that aspect, but WWE's already locked into this.
What's the alternative? Yeah Rock can mop the floor with Cena's candy ass again, but then what? Drop the strap to a glorified rookie in Ryback? Or to ADR who hasn't really had the time to catch on? Or maybe Sheamus, who's Sheamus? Maybe Orton if they turn him heel? Ziggler in a Title Unification match, despite Ziggler's jobbing? Bleh. Nobody else is ready for that kind of rub. They could use this to facilitate a Cena heel turn, but that would be a bigger disaster since the above names would be carrying the company. So maybe Cena just getting his win back would be the right thing for business.
What's the alternative? Yeah Rock can mop the floor with Cena's candy ass again, but then what? Drop the strap to a glorified rookie in Ryback? Or to ADR who hasn't really had the time to catch on? Or maybe Sheamus, who's Sheamus? Maybe Orton if they turn him heel? Ziggler in a Title Unification match, despite Ziggler's jobbing? Bleh. Nobody else is ready for that kind of rub. They could use this to facilitate a Cena heel turn, but that would be a bigger disaster since the above names would be carrying the company. So maybe Cena just getting his win back would be the right thing for business.
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I don't mind Cena getting the belt again, I just hope they go with some fresh opponents for him.
Sheamus and Orton going heel just to job to Cena, ala Big Show in 2012, would be shitty. Speaking of Show, they could milk another month of promoting Show as a monster heel and job him out to Cena again. Ziggler losing another match? No.
Mark Henry would make a new and interesting feud. They could milk a couple of months out of that one. Have the first PPV match end in DQ or a No Contest and then have Henry destroy Cena after the match and cause some internal bleeding and/or taped ribs leading to the rematch, where Cena manages to overcome him. An alternate idea is having Henry take the belt in the first match and injure Cena for a few months, ala Earthquake taking out Hogan in 1991 (which had kids crying back then, too) and then having Cena come back and win it in the big comeback match later.
A face/face encounter with Ryback that ends with Ryback taking the belt could be neat if they built Ryback up to have some sort of aura but I'm afraid they've made him a choke artist by having him lose every big match he's had to date. I'm not even sure if a victory over The Shield in some capacity will make much difference.
Another idea is to toss a midcard/upper-midcard heel in there with him for a month. Sometimes, it's cool to test the waters by putting someone in a title match even though they're clearly not ready for a world title run, but it's a way of seeing how the audience react to them in that situation. See Austin (against Undertaker) at Cold Day In Hell 1997 or Cena himself (against Brock) at Backlash 2003 or Jericho winning the belt from Triple H in April of 2000 as examples. Or Ryback last year at HIAC, though they were kinda forced into that one. Throw someone like Damien Sandow in there with Cena for the belt for a month just to see how people react to it. Could even do a false finish where it looks like Sandow just won the belt (just so fans can see what it looks like to see Sandow holding the belt) only to restart the match and have Cena retain. There's reports of Vince wanting to see Sandow in the main event scene sooner than later anyway.
Just saying, this title reign of Cena's could be one of his best ever depending on how they book it, even if it mostly results in Cena prevailing 98% of the time.
Sheamus and Orton going heel just to job to Cena, ala Big Show in 2012, would be shitty. Speaking of Show, they could milk another month of promoting Show as a monster heel and job him out to Cena again. Ziggler losing another match? No.
Mark Henry would make a new and interesting feud. They could milk a couple of months out of that one. Have the first PPV match end in DQ or a No Contest and then have Henry destroy Cena after the match and cause some internal bleeding and/or taped ribs leading to the rematch, where Cena manages to overcome him. An alternate idea is having Henry take the belt in the first match and injure Cena for a few months, ala Earthquake taking out Hogan in 1991 (which had kids crying back then, too) and then having Cena come back and win it in the big comeback match later.
A face/face encounter with Ryback that ends with Ryback taking the belt could be neat if they built Ryback up to have some sort of aura but I'm afraid they've made him a choke artist by having him lose every big match he's had to date. I'm not even sure if a victory over The Shield in some capacity will make much difference.
Another idea is to toss a midcard/upper-midcard heel in there with him for a month. Sometimes, it's cool to test the waters by putting someone in a title match even though they're clearly not ready for a world title run, but it's a way of seeing how the audience react to them in that situation. See Austin (against Undertaker) at Cold Day In Hell 1997 or Cena himself (against Brock) at Backlash 2003 or Jericho winning the belt from Triple H in April of 2000 as examples. Or Ryback last year at HIAC, though they were kinda forced into that one. Throw someone like Damien Sandow in there with Cena for the belt for a month just to see how people react to it. Could even do a false finish where it looks like Sandow just won the belt (just so fans can see what it looks like to see Sandow holding the belt) only to restart the match and have Cena retain. There's reports of Vince wanting to see Sandow in the main event scene sooner than later anyway.
Just saying, this title reign of Cena's could be one of his best ever depending on how they book it, even if it mostly results in Cena prevailing 98% of the time.
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My only problem being is that I would have to witness it in my homestate & I would have to here that annoying music as I walk out to get to the parking lot.
Other than that I see no problem with it other than it being highly predictable. I would be huge on this idea if Cena were to cheat to win and turn heel, that would be amazing.
Other than that I see no problem with it other than it being highly predictable. I would be huge on this idea if Cena were to cheat to win and turn heel, that would be amazing.
For me The Rock didn't deserve the belt to begin with...
Still struggling to understand if the title he created is something from wrestling, or something batman can wear as a belt of his own...
Still struggling to understand if the title he created is something from wrestling, or something batman can wear as a belt of his own...
Cena should win. The reason why is simple: the Rock has to go away and do his actual job by starring in another bad movie.
This is not a bad decision. The bad decision was in setting up the Rock to look stronger than your top guy (Cena) and the guy who held the title for over a year (Punk), thereby pointing out to everybody that the Rock is a superior athlete/wrestler/whatever than anybody in the WWE today. The smarter move would have been to leave the belt on Punk and let him wrestle a main event at Mania against John Cena, which Cena would probably win, but that's okay. You have to remember that it's a story and that, in a story, good usually wins in the end. And Cena, whether or not anyone here likes it, represents good while Punk represents bad. This is what makes Rock-Cena II a confusing setup. There is no "bad guy" in this match. And, if wrestling history tells us anything, it's that, if there's no clear villain, somebody has to take on that role. Sometimes, the show dictates it (Wrestlemania XVII - Austin vs. Rock: Austin made the most nonsensical heel turn in ten years, which was completely crapped on by the fans, who continued to cheer him even after he beat up Jim Ross). If the storyline doesn't dictate it, then the fans will decide for themselves, much as they did last year, cheering for the Rock and booing Cena. The problem, of course, is that Vince doesn't trust his audience to make these decisions, so expect some over-the-top BS to try and force the audience to choose his boy.
Of course, the other thing is that WWE had the opportunity to insert an unpredictability factor into the match by pushing it into a three-way dance between Cena, Rocky, and Punk, which would have been a better storytelling decision than what they've gone with.
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This is not a bad decision. The bad decision was in setting up the Rock to look stronger than your top guy (Cena) and the guy who held the title for over a year (Punk), thereby pointing out to everybody that the Rock is a superior athlete/wrestler/whatever than anybody in the WWE today. The smarter move would have been to leave the belt on Punk and let him wrestle a main event at Mania against John Cena, which Cena would probably win, but that's okay. You have to remember that it's a story and that, in a story, good usually wins in the end. And Cena, whether or not anyone here likes it, represents good while Punk represents bad. This is what makes Rock-Cena II a confusing setup. There is no "bad guy" in this match. And, if wrestling history tells us anything, it's that, if there's no clear villain, somebody has to take on that role. Sometimes, the show dictates it (Wrestlemania XVII - Austin vs. Rock: Austin made the most nonsensical heel turn in ten years, which was completely crapped on by the fans, who continued to cheer him even after he beat up Jim Ross). If the storyline doesn't dictate it, then the fans will decide for themselves, much as they did last year, cheering for the Rock and booing Cena. The problem, of course, is that Vince doesn't trust his audience to make these decisions, so expect some over-the-top BS to try and force the audience to choose his boy.
Of course, the other thing is that WWE had the opportunity to insert an unpredictability factor into the match by pushing it into a three-way dance between Cena, Rocky, and Punk, which would have been a better storytelling decision than what they've gone with.
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KLockard23 said:
Maybe whoever holds the mitb contract (daniel bryan please) at the time could cash in on him afterwards and become the undisputed champion
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tgill85 said:
Bryan? God no, I love the bearded weirdo to death but that would be a terrible choice as the man to hold the unified titles in it's first proper reign, it needs to be someone iconic and I can't see Bryan reaching that moment, I'm unsure who should do it but not him, possibly Ambrose if they're adamant on pushing him to the moon.
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Who knows when they'll unify the belts and who might have caught fire as a future main eventer by then, but I'd be fine with Punk doing it. Win one of the titles shortly before the unification match takes place (World Heavyweight Title, since his previous title win was the WWE Title, a title he'll be holding again as soon as the belts become unified anyway) and then unify them against an opponent (Cena? Maybe it could be the big rematch since their feud would have cooled off by the time the unification match happens, probably.)
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If Cena turns heel, the entire landscape of the WWE will change.
I'm getting desperate about his feel turn, I have a feeling it will never happen, the dude enjoys torturing us with his trolly smile :upset:
Lets just hope his reign won't last long, I definitely can't stand another long reign of his.
What makes me sad is that... you know, I really feel like it's going to be a long, boring Cena reign. Can they make it entertaining? Yes. Will they? I don't really think so.