SummerSlam Why John Cena Should Be Booked To Tap Out At SummerSlam

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I don't think Brock NEEDS to make Cena tap out, but like I said earlier, I wouldn't completely dismiss the chance of it happening. In kayfabe though, Cena arguably is on Undertaker's level (just look at the long list of opponents he's defeated), so if Lesnar had to use three straight F-5's to put him down just as he did with Taker, I'd be fine with that. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't intentionally make Cena look stronger than Taker by requiring him to take four of 'em before staying down. The only way I can see Cena tapping is if Cena's arm ends up broken from being in the Kimura Lock for so long or something.
 

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I'm sure they'll use a hart/Austin finish for this one. Cena will lose but never give up.
 

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Exactly. He needs to have him tap out. It only makes sense. If it was built up in the sense where it's the last resort for Lesnar, I could see that as even better, but the biggest problem I have with that is that it would ruin Undertaker because it would make Taker look like a pussy considering how Cena could kick out after three F5s whereas Taker couldn't. In my mind tapping out after a complete beating with fair contest from Cena is the only obvious choice.
What's your fascination with the Undertaker here? More importantly, why is it so important to you that Brock look so great?
Did WWE convince you that Brock deserved the rub of making Cena tap? Never forget, it was Undertaker who chose to lose to Brock, not the empire.
It was never the Empire's initial purpose to make Brock Lesnar this god you people are.
All of a sudden because Taker ate the pin people are batsh** that Lesnar lost to Cena two f***ing years ago. Lesnar got a rub from Taker. That's it.
How is WWE getting a payoff from this. Lesnar barely works. Lesnar beats Taker and all of a sudden, he's god and making Cena tap. Please.

If Lesnar manned up and agreed to an arc, things would be different. An arc would be X amount of dates where Cena could tap, he'd put over Cesaro, Reigns and number of other matches or scenarios.
 

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What's your fascination with the Undertaker here? More importantly, why is it so important to you that Brock look so great?
Did WWE convince you that Brock deserved the rub of making Cena tap? Never forget, it was Undertaker who chose to lose to Brock, not the empire.
It was never the Empire's initial purpose to make Brock Lesnar this god you people are.
All of a sudden because Taker ate the pin people are batsh** that Lesnar lost to Cena two f***ing years ago. Lesnar got a rub from Taker. That's it.
How is WWE getting a payoff from this. Lesnar barely works. Lesnar beats Taker and all of a sudden, he's god and making Cena tap. Please.

If Lesnar manned up and agreed to an arc, things would be different. An arc would be X amount of dates where Cena could tap, he'd put over Cesaro, Reigns and number of other matches or scenarios.
Still, if he didn't and survived 3/4 F5s, it would make Taker look weak.
 

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Still, if he didn't and survived 3/4 F5s, it would make Taker look weak.
Maybe, but isn't Taker weak at this point anyways. I mean, the guy looks terrible. He's 49 years old.
I see where you're driving at. I just can't justify Undertaker anymore. He has no business looking that out of shape against that monster.
Cena should look stronger than the Undertaker, way stronger actually. If Taker is so strong, why doesn't he wrestle more?
Fans aren't that dense, they know Taker is too old to wrestle more.
You aren't off the mark, its just kayfabe can only cover so much before its just ridiculous.
 

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Maybe, but isn't Taker weak at this point anyways. I mean, the guy looks terrible. He's 49 years old.
I see where you're driving at. I just can't justify Undertaker anymore. He has no business looking that out of shape against that monster.
Cena should look stronger than the Undertaker, way stronger actually. If Taker is so strong, why doesn't he wrestle more?
Fans aren't that dense, they know Taker is too old to wrestle more.
You aren't off the mark, its just kayfabe can only cover so much before its just ridiculous.
Still, and fair enough yes, Cena is built up to be the face of the company, the top dog that has solidified his place in WWE, but the streak had it's whole meaning behind it that WWE drilled into fans heads. At this rate, they can't just pull a fast one and act like Cena is above the streak or at least the guy who broke it.
 

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Still, and fair enough yes, Cena is built up to be the face of the company, the top dog that has solidified his place in WWE, but the streak had it's whole meaning behind it that WWE drilled into fans heads. At this rate, they can't just pull a fast one and act like Cena is above the streak or at least the guy who broke it.
You did burn me, but not because I wasn't aware of the streak. You burned me because I fail to see why Brock Lesnar and streak breaker are synonymous.
I do believe should lose and lose cleanly. I do not believe Lesnar is worthy of the streak or Cena tapping unless he took it like a man and worked more dates.
Cena isn't above the streak in the least. If WWE wants to give Lesnar these kinds of rubs, fine. Let him make Cena tap.
Why anyone would want Lesnar to have these honors is beyond my scope. If this is all done just to push Roman Reigns over the top, then the Empire has less common sense than I thought.
 

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You did burn me, but not because I wasn't aware of the streak. You burned me because I fail to see why Brock Lesnar and streak breaker are synonymous.
I do believe should lose and lose cleanly. I do not believe Lesnar is worthy of the streak or Cena tapping unless he took it like a man and worked more dates.
Cena isn't above the streak in the least. If WWE wants to give Lesnar these kinds of rubs, fine. Let him make Cena tap.
Why anyone would want Lesnar to have these honors is beyond my scope. If this is all done just to push Roman Reigns over the top, then the Empire has less common sense than I thought.
I agree, I just see Lesnar getting this rub to solidify his place as the champion after going on his warpath so far this year. In terms of kayfabe, I imagine it is for WWE to try and get Reigns to win the title at WM 31 over a "credible" opponent, and while this does make sense, there are two key flaws. One, being that Lesnar probably will not work all the days as far as wrestling on shows or even cutting promos himself. It's going to bore viewers and lose interest in the overall product, both hardcore and casual fans. Two, having Reigns, who's been on the main roster for not even 2 years yet without paying his dues as well, win the belt from Lesnar, who'd be put in the hierarchical position, makes little to no sense. He has not paid his dues and he's being forced down fans throats with the same repetitive nonsense each week. He has no true character besides being pretty much a completely watered down CM Punk-esque authority rebel. His promos only state the obvious and feel as if they're being read from a script. His matches showcase the same things everytime, the same five moves. It's pretty much Cena tbf. Regardless, I'd agree it makes no sense to have Lesnar as champ either way, but if it goes to fruition, it can't work for Reigns.
 

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Those are two huge flaws. If this were a different company I'd be for this.
In reality, Lesnar is a greater fighter than Cena and Undertaker and it isn't even close. On this basis, Lesnar would lose hardly at all.
Believe me, if the Empire did this I'd like it. They'd have to overhaul the totality of their foundation. If it brought about a shoot-first product I'd love it.
If Cena tapped I would expect change. I would demand a shoot-first product because that's the only way this entire thing would come together.
Finally, as you said, Reigns is far too flawed. I believe Bray Wyatt is more talented but that's another story.

Lesnar is pro-Lesnar, not pro-WWE. This should be considered when constructing the possible ramifications of Cena tapping out to Brock Lesnar