Why does Triple H always try to steal the spotlight from other wrestlers bigger than himself ?

[RedDwarfTechy]

it's odd because once his character is being put out of the equation, he's the most selfless person in any room in Stanford given his booking and how proud he is of his NXT guys and gals, who he repeatedly called "better than he could ever be" but he has a certain vision in his head of what the character "Triple H" should represent and there's little to nothing that's stopping him from realizing that vision because he's the COO lol. Personally I don't have a problem with it, because when it comes down to it, he's put over more guys than any other "old timer".
Recently WWE uploaded a video that included the wrestlers who lost the most matches at Mania and Triple H is by far #1 by losing to people like Batista, Cena, Bryan, Reigns and Rollins who all turned out to be stars later on. Rollins is bit debatable but I'd actually blame that on Trips losing his value due to the fact that he's lost so much at this point that it's not even a difficult task. Same is happening to Cena I feel like. The more you have these guys wrestle and lose, the less special they become

It's a very fine line indeed between someone getting a good rub from beating you and being a jobber with a history. Triple H, I feel is moving more and more into the 'legendary' jobber territory.

As for the guy himself, I think he threw himself into the business, learned the ins and outs and was smart enough, dare I say, cerebral enough, to know what to do to stay in the business.

Was he the most talented guy? Hell no. But I've always enjoyed his character work and his professionalism outside the ring and it actually gives me hope that when Vince kicks the bucket, WWE will improve.

I don't know or really care if he married the boss' daughter for love or for politicking. But it got us NXT, I'm thankful to the guy.

My only issue with him would be that he constantly takes up time with matches in WM. I mean he puts the young guys over so it's not like Oldberg situation but it's still time that young guys could use.

Out of all the part-timers, I like him the most because unlike the majority, he can still 'Go' in a match. His match vs Bryan was pretty good, and so was his match with Rollins.

Most other part-timers do 2-3 moves and then gasp for breath.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Rollins is bit debatable but I'd actually blame that on Trips losing his value due to the fact that he's lost so much at this point that it's not even a difficult task. Same is happening to Cena I feel like. The more you have these guys wrestle and lose, the less special they become

Which is the point of the older guys putting the younger guys over right?

So the younger guys can be built up & actually seem like stars right?

Right?

It's a very fine line indeed between someone getting a good rub from beating you and being a jobber with a history. Triple H, I feel is moving more and more into the 'legendary' jobber territory.

Sounds good to me...although he wouldn't "Job" for Jinder in India.

Out of all the part-timers, I like him the most because unlike the majority, he can still 'Go' in a match. His match vs Bryan was pretty good, and so was his match with Rollins.

Most other part-timers do 2-3 moves and then gasp for breath.

Very true...

My only issue with him would be that he constantly takes up time with matches in WM. I mean he puts the young guys over so it's not like Oldberg situation but it's still time that young guys could use.

Bingo! We don't need a 25 minute long Triple H match on any Wrestlemania card.

 

[Redboy123@]

he's put over more guys than any other "old timer".

Cough cough...Jericho.

 

[SWL]

Which is the point of the older guys putting the younger guys over right?

So the younger guys can be built up & actually seem like stars right?

Right?

generally speaking, it's not always an age thing. Wrestlers generally shouldn't be rated by how old they are but moreso how popular and/or how good they are. For example, the reason why the Taker thing worked out so well was because he wouldn't lose, but once Brock finally did it, he went from barely surviving Punk to making Cena his bitch just a year later. It only raises a wrestler's stock if the person he beat didn't lose a whole lot. That's why Asuka's in a perfect spot to put someone over and that's also why beating Triple H or Jericho isn't special anymore because both of them lost too much in their latest stints. If Triple H would have beaten more people at Manias or PPVs over the past 6-7 years, he'd be a major player right now and in a position to truly put someone over

Cough cough...Jericho.

forgot about Jericho, he's in the same boat as Triple H. He lost so much that he turned from main eventer to upper midcarder real quick. Triple H at least made sure that he'd catch a win here and there to stay a top player

 

[Redboy123@]

forgot about Jericho, he's in the same boat as Triple H. He lost so much that he turned from main eventer to upper midcarder real quick. Triple H at least made sure that he'd catch a win here and there to stay a top player

I can't think of the last good HHH match. I think it was Ambrose at Roadblock.I think Jericho is very much a top player. He could main event a show next week.

Jericho is everything HHH is trying to be. Put on good feuds and matches while putting people over effectivley. I dont think HHH can do that job as effectivley.

 

[SWL]

I can't think of the last good HHH match. I think it was Ambrose at Roadblock.I think Jericho is very much a top player. He could main event a show next week.

Jericho is everything HHH is trying to be. Put on good feuds and matches while putting people over effectivley. I dont think HHH can do that job as effectivley.

a wrestler's stock doesn't have to do with match quality. Of course, the internet cares but an attending audience would still rather see Triple H come to a house show than Jericho simply because Triple H didn't lose to Fandango, Bray Wyatt, Dolph Ziggler, Kevin Owens or AJ Styles (yet). Triple H is just the bigger star out of the 2. You saw the buzz generated off of Jericho going over to New Japan. Now imagine what would have happened if Triple H would done the same. 'Nuff said

 

[Redboy123@]

a wrestler's stock doesn't have to do with match quality. Of course, the internet cares but an attending audience would still rather see Triple H come to a house show than Jericho simply because Triple H didn't lose to Fandango, Bray Wyatt, Dolph Ziggler, Kevin Owens or AJ Styles (yet). Triple H is just the bigger star out of the 2. You saw the buzz generated off of Jericho going over to New Japan. Now imagine what would have happened if Triple H would done the same. 'Nuff said

It depends on who you find is more entertaining. I don't think you can generalise what an attending audience likes. People like different stuff. From watching TV from the past two years, I can personally say that Y2J is far more entertaining. I wouldnt be surprise if the majority of casual fans think the same. Off course HHH probably has more drawing power and is more mainstream. But all im saying, going off by the last two years or so, Y2J is better at his job.

 

[SWL]

It depends on who you find is more entertaining. I don't think you can generalise what an attending audience likes. People like different stuff. From watching TV from the past two years, I can personally say that Y2J is far more entertaining. I wouldnt be surprise if the majority of casual fans think the same. Off course HHH probably has more drawing power and is more mainstream. But all im saying, going off by the last two years or so, Y2J is better at his job.

well that's opinionated, but if we're talking about Jericho being everything Triple H wants to be or who's the top player out of the 2, that doesn't have to do with opinions anymore. I partially enjoy watching Jericho more than Trips too, but generally speaking, Triple H has been more consistent and successful than Jericho over all these years. So, opinions and personally preference aside, I stand by my statement that Triple H is the top player out of the 2

 

[Redboy123@]

well that's opinionated, but if we're talking about Jericho being everything Triple H wants to be or who's the top player out of the 2, that doesn't have to do with opinions anymore. I partially enjoy watching Jericho more than Trips too, but generally speaking, Triple H has been more consistent and successful than Jericho over all these years. So, opinions and personally preference aside, I stand by my statement that Triple H is the top player out of the 2

What are you measuring success and consistency with?

 

[SWL]

What are you measuring success and consistency with?

drawing ability, big matches, popularity, title wins.. all that jazz. For example, if you look at past Wrestlemanias, Triple H is usually more up the card than Jericho is, especially nowadays. And when we're talking about consistency, Triple H was rarely in a dead feud, he was usually in a big angle or storyline and if not, he managed to make it big like the Sheamus feud in 2010. Jericho, from time to time, was in a bit of a wasted program with people like Fandango, Bray Wyatt or Dean Ambrose. He's being treated more like a midcarder than a main eventer

 

[Redboy123@]

drawing ability, big matches, popularity, title wins.. all that jazz. For example, if you look at past Wrestlemanias, Triple H is usually more up the card than Jericho is, especially nowadays. And when we're talking about consistency, Triple H was rarely in a dead feud, he was usually in a big angle or storyline and if not, he managed to make it big like the Sheamus feud in 2010. Jericho, from time to time, was in a bit of a wasted program with people like Fandango, Bray Wyatt or Dean Ambrose. He's being treated more like a midcarder than a main eventer

Without a doubt HHH has made more money and had more big matches. Why that is the case is exactly what this thread is about. He always jumps on the hottest act in the company. Recent examples are Braun and Ronda. I don't admire that, but its pretty clever.

btw Jericho v Ambrose was a pretty passable feud, with some very memorable moments and matches. Nothing special but it was during one of Jericho's best runs and about a month later Ambrose become WWE champ. I don't know how that 2 month feud was a waste. Wyatt and Fandango is fair enough. Even though Jericho did the best he could with Fandango and for a short amount of time it worked.

 

[SWL]

Without a doubt HHH has made more money and had more big matches. Why that is the case is exactly what this thread is about. He always jumps on the hottest act in the company. Recent example are Braun and Ronda. I don't admire that, but its pretty clever.

btw Jericho v Ambrose was a pretty passable feud, with some very memorable moments and matches. Nothing special but it was during one of Jericho's best runs and about a month later Ambrose become WWE champ. I don't know how that 2 month feud was a waste. Wyatt and Fandango is fair enough. Even though Jericho did the best he could with Fandango and for a short amount of time it worked.

I mean, I'm not trying to say Triple H and Jericho had the same opportunities to be in big angles and matches because it's a complete mismatch of power but if we're looking at track records, facts are facts and money is money.

And I don't want this thread to go way off topic with Jericho now but the Asylum match and mitch the plant didn't really do much for either of them. It was fun (at times) but it didn't raise either one's stock as a wrestler. Their Payback match was ok but nothing mindblowing considering the fact that we had Zayn/Owens and Reigns/AJ on the same card and the Steel Cage Asylum match is a mess as it is. The thumbtack spot was cool but also wasted on a match without any momentum behind it at all. Yes, Ambrose did go on to become WWE champion but I wouldn't link those 2 things to each other. He won MITB and therefor opened a new chapter as a whole, it's not like Jericho/Ambrose was a #1 contenders feud or anything. Jericho went on to team up with Owens and that's where his new gimmick truly reached its peak, but not necessarily during the Ambrose feud if you feel me. Not many people talk about Jericho/Ambrose either, which is a shame because before it happened, many people were actually pulling for it to be a Mania-type feud

 

[Redboy123@]

And I don't want this thread to go way off topic with Jericho now but the Asylum match and mitch the plant didn't really do much for either of them. It was fun (at times) but it didn't raise either one's stock as a wrestler. Their Payback match was ok but nothing mindblowing considering the fact that we had Zayn/Owens and Reigns/AJ on the same card and the Steel Cage Asylum match is a mess as it is. The thumbtack spot was cool but also wasted on a match without any momentum behind it at all. Yes, Ambrose did go on to become WWE champion but I wouldn't link those 2 things to each other. He won MITB and therefor opened a new chapter as a whole, it's not like Jericho/Ambrose was a #1 contenders feud or anything. Jericho went on to team up with Owens and that's where his new gimmick truly reached its peak, but not necessarily during the Ambrose feud if you feel me. Not many people talk about Jericho/Ambrose either, which is a shame because before it happened, many people were actually pulling for it to be a Mania-type feud

Its one of those short feuds that gave both men something to do until they got into long term storylines. I think it gave birth to this new Jericho character as it gave birth to a few of his new catchphrase and the great line "I'll take 15000 dolars from out your ass" . This feud happened in 2016 and I still remember many things about it