Why did WWE ditch MSG?

[NickAngel12]

What in your mind was the point of the city putting the 10 year limit on their permit then? Genuinely curious, not trying to be a cockboy like usual.

idk if there's a lot of land available in NYC too. kinda idiotic

 

[Danielson]

What in your mind was the point of the city putting the 10 year limit on their permit then? Genuinely curious, not trying to be a cockboy like usual.

If you want my honest opinion, it's a ploy to help make the transportation safer, and get the people to shell out more money. Now, I haven't been there since the renovations, but I remember it being clustered as fuck. There is no way you can justify renovating 10 billion dollars for 10 years, you won't even make that back, hell they might make half of it. I guess I could be wrong, but it makes absolutely no sense, and I'd be irate if it did and I lived in the city.

 

[NickAngel12]

If you want my honest opinion, it's a ploy to help make the transportation safer, and get the people to shell out more money. Now, I haven't been there since the renovations, but I remember it being clustered as fuck. There is no way you can justify renovating 10 billion dollars for 10 years, you won't even make that back, hell they might make half of it. I guess I could be wrong, but it makes absolutely no sense, and I'd be irate if it did and I lived in the city.

Honestly? When comparing to L.A., I felt safer when it comes to transportation in NYC and that's prolly due to the amount of exits, not to mention I didn't see a lot of traffic in NYC when comparing to L.A. Now, I do see the point of trying people to shell out more money.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

If you want my honest opinion, it's a ploy to help make the transportation safer, and get the people to shell out more money. Now, I haven't been there since the renovations, but I remember it being clustered as fuck. There is no way you can justify renovating 10 billion dollars for 10 years, you won't even make that back, hell they might make half of it. I guess I could be wrong, but it makes absolutely no sense, and I'd be irate if it did and I lived in the city.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/madison-square-garden-recoup-1b-article-1.1342412

 

[Danielson]

It was 1 billion, typo'd a 0 for some reason. They won't make half of that back I don't think.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

It was 1 billion, typo'd a 0 for some reason. They won't make half of that back I don't think.

article says they'll make it back in 5 years.

 

[NickAngel12]

MSG? Dude, have you seen those ticket prices? Not to mention, MSG host a shit load of events every month.

 

[Danielson]

article says they'll make it back in 5 years.

The foofaraw over the permit extension, in fact, has obscured an equally puzzling question, which is how on earth MSG is expecting to earn back enough from all those high-end brisket joints and sky seats to make $1 billion in renovations worth their while. It would take at least $100 million a year in new revenue for the Garden to turn a respectable profit on the Transformation. (Which really should allow for the arena to turn into a five-story battle robot at the touch of a button. But I digress.) Both the Rangers and Knicks have inched up ticket prices in recent years, but with at best a little less than 2 million fannies in seats per year, they'd have to double ticket prices to earn it back that way. And even New York sports fans can only eat so much brisket.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/63544026/ This article says otherwise, guess I'll have to find more that agree or disagree.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

MSG? Dude, have you seen those ticket prices? Not to mention, MSG host a shit load of events every month.

Billy Joel is playing a show every month until he doesn't sell out. Bet those tickets cost quite a bit lol

and Danny, you sure taxpayers paid for that shit? I'm reading the Knicks paid for it.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

The foofaraw over the permit extension, in fact, has obscured an equally puzzling question, which is how on earth MSG is expecting to earn back enough from all those high-end brisket joints and sky seats to make $1 billion in renovations worth their while. It would take at least $100 million a year in new revenue for the Garden to turn a respectable profit on the Transformation. (Which really should allow for the arena to turn into a five-story battle robot at the touch of a button. But I digress.) Both the Rangers and Knicks have inched up ticket prices in recent years, but with at best a little less than 2 million fannies in seats per year, they'd have to double ticket prices to earn it back that way. And even New York sports fans can only eat so much brisket.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/63544026/ This article says otherwise, guess I'll have to find more that agree or disagree.

nydailynews vs.... sports on earth?

not sayin, just sayin

 

[Danielson]

Honestly? When comparing to L.A., I felt safer when it comes to transportation in NYC and that's prolly due to the amount of exits, not to mention I didn't see a lot of traffic in NYC when comparing to L.A. Now, I do see the point of trying people to shell out more money.

MSG is built on top of penn station. I think that is what it is all about in the end.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

MSG is built on top of penn station. I think that is what it is all about in the end.

pretty much

 

[Danielson]

Billy Joel is playing a show every month until he doesn't sell out. Bet those tickets cost quite a bit lol

and Danny, you sure taxpayers paid for that shit? I'm reading the Knicks paid for it.

The Knicks broadcast brings it up almost every game They have an entire series for it on the actual MSG channel. The tax payers paid for 1/4th of that shit, i'm almost positive.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

The Knicks broadcast brings it up almost every game They have an entire series for it on the actual MSG channel. The tax payers paid for 1/4th of that shit, i'm almost positive.

http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/...ious_stylish_and_foreign_to_old_denizens.html

Ratner and Dolan deserved their day of celebration, but they were spared the usual round of questions about how the middle class has been priced out of the Garden. Ratner dodged questions about how MSG has had a property tax exemption since 1982, and for reasons only the state legislature can explain, bills to have it revoked have stalled. (Total savings: $350 million.)

MSG doth protests. We’re financing our own renovation, they say, while all the other teams in town (Nets, Yankees, Mets) get public subsidies to build their arenas. It’s a valid point.

Somehow, however, our sympathy was tested after they jacked up the price of every ticket by 50 percent prior to 2011-12 to pay for this, which means a Knicks ticket now costs more than twice as much as the NBA average.

 

[Danielson]

http://www.nj.com/knicks/index.ssf/...ious_stylish_and_foreign_to_old_denizens.html

Ratner and Dolan deserved their day of celebration, but they were spared the usual round of questions about how the middle class has been priced out of the Garden. Ratner dodged questions about how MSG has had a property tax exemption since 1982, and for reasons only the state legislature can explain, bills to have it revoked have stalled. (Total savings: $350 million.)

MSG doth protests. We’re financing our own renovation, they say, while all the other teams in town (Nets, Yankees, Mets) get public subsidies to build their arenas. It’s a valid point.

Somehow, however, our sympathy was tested after they jacked up the price of every ticket by 50 percent prior to 2011-12 to pay for this, which means a Knicks ticket now costs more than twice as much as the NBA average.

Interesting. I have no idea where I'm getting the number stuck in my head of 206 million that they had to pay.