Who Should Kofi Kingston Lose The United States Championship To?

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If they're not gonna get a shot at the WHC, then a member of the Shield - preferably Ambrose.
I would see him as intercontinental and the other 2 shield members tag team champions.
 
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Likewise, and that's the direction they seem to be going, with Kofi attacking him on Friday and all.
It would be interesting but I do like team hell no as tag team champions, there always fun to watch.
 

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Likewise, and that's the direction they seem to be going, with Kofi attacking him on Friday and all.
Ambrose seems more likely to go for the tag team belt to be honest. When they laid out Kane last week they stood with the tag belts. Dean and Seth holding them. And after RAW last Monday were Ambrose beat Kofi he nodded towards Kofi for Reigns. That can be interpreted as him telling Reigns to go for the US belt.

Just a thought.
 

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Ambrose seems more likely to go for the tag team belt to be honest. When they laid out Kane last week they stood with the tag belts. Dean and Seth holding them. And after RAW last Monday were Ambrose beat Kofi he nodded towards Kofi for Reigns. That can be interpreted as him telling Reigns to go for the US belt.

Just a thought.

That was my thoughts as well, until SD with Kofi attacking Ambrose. I guess it could be either of the two, but I also thought it could be Ambrose as they seem to be giving him all the singles matches. Plus Reigns/Rollins working together would be an awesome dynamic.
 

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That was my thoughts as well, until SD. I guess it could be either of the two, but I also thought it could be Ambrose as they seem to be giving him all the singles matches. Plus Reigns/Rollins working together would be an awesome dynamic.
In my ideal scenario it would have been Seth and Roman going for the tag belts with Ambrose acting as the mouth piece of the group. Ambrose could then get to work some more singles matches both on and off camera to allow him to develop his ring skills. Putting a title on him would require longer matches off him in general since the average title match/match involving a champ is longer than a normal match unless your name is Kaitlyn or Wade Barrett. This would then end with Ambrose getting a belt once he is more warm in the clothes which would then lead to the start of the Shield splintering in some way.
 
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Haha well I'm in for Cruiserweights as ppl like Bourne, Gabriel, The Uso's etc I know would entertain the hell outta me given time and a spot monkey fest on RAW weekly might help with the crappy crowds and boredom of SSDD. Hell put it on SD make me watch that weekly.

Second as for the US title I dont know Cesaro jobbed so much with it im beyond caring against it same as the IC. The whole midcard scene and below is a state and in turmoil imo. Needs huge changes.
 

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In my ideal scenario it would have been Seth and Roman going for the tag belts with Ambrose acting as the mouth piece of the group. Ambrose could then get to work some more singles matches both on and off camera to allow him to develop his ring skills. Putting a title on him would require longer matches off him in general since the average title match/match involving a champ is longer than a normal match unless your name is Kaitlyn or Wade Barrett. This would then end with Ambrose getting a belt once he is more warm in the clothes which would then lead to the start of the Shield splintering in some way.

The best place for Ambrose to improve is in front of an actual crowd. It's only the US title as well, and let's be honest, it's only gonna have to be ten minute or so matches. He isn't awful in the ring at all, chuck him in there with a good worker and he's fine. (I don't include Kofi in that by the way)
 

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The best place for Ambrose to improve is in front of an actual crowd. It's only the US title as well, and let's be honest, it's only gonna have to be ten minute or so matches. He isn't awful in the ring at all, chuck him in there with a good worker and he's fine. (I don't include Kofi in that by the way)
Performing a dart match before or after a RAW taping won't impact the crowd size. And the average crowd for a WWE live event in the united states in 2012 was about 6000 people anyways so having matches at a house show isn't bad either. I'd personally not put him in ten minute matches right away since the Kane match showed that he wasn't ready for that long a match. He needs to work with both bad and good workers so that he learns when he needs to take command of a match build or just go along for the ride.

You can wrestle Daniel Bryan and be directed to a five star match all you want but if you aren't ready to take the command when wrestling say Zack ryder you won't get nearly the same result.
 

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I'd love to see Reigns take the United States title. It would start to solidify The Shield in the title picture and increase their appearance as a threat that much more.
 

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Going by TNA's current rules: People under 230 pounds on the main roster (according to Wikipedia)

Jericho, Christian, Punk, Rhodes, Hawkins, Bryan, Ambrose, Ziggler, Epico, Primo, Hunico, Camacho, Bourne, Gabriel, Both Uso's, Kofi, Miz, Mcgillicutty, R-Truth, Rollins, Sin Cara, Dibiase, Kidd, Tatsu, Ryder.

Otunga's been billed at 229 and 250, but the latter's more believable. JTG and Santino are 233 so they can pass. There's also Bo but he doesn't count.

The reason we want a cruiserweight division is for a little optimism towards these guys having something to fight for.
Plus there's loads of different talents in there. You've got a good mix of spot-monkeys like Gabriel, talkers like Miz, and even mini-powerhouses like Ted.
Almost all of these guys are completely irrelevant right now and more entertaining than anyone in the main-event or upper mid-card scene.

The problem is that when the Lightheavyweight/Cruiserweight division was around, it was always booked as an undercard division that was lower on the totem pole than the IC Title and the US Title (once the US Title was introduced in 2003.) WCW even booked it that way. Also, most of those guys (Jericho, Punk, Ambrose, Miz, Rollins, etc.) are not the kind of people who should be fighting for a title that was almost always a curtain jerker of a match in the first place.

If people are gonna use the whole "if only WWE books it right" roll of the dice argument for wanting the cruiserweight title and division back, the same can be said for wanting the IC and US belts to regain a lot of the prestige they once had. Those titles also have a better history and you don't have to be of a small(er) size to win them or a bigger size either, which means that guys like Kidd or Gabriel or whoever (the only kind of people I could honestly see winning the CW Title) could have a crack at winning them as well.
 

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Performing a dart match before or after a RAW taping won't impact the crowd size. And the average crowd for a WWE live event in the united states in 2012 was about 6000 people anyways so having matches at a house show isn't bad either. I'd personally not put him in ten minute matches right away since the Kane match showed that he wasn't ready for that long a match. He needs to work with both bad and good workers so that he learns when he needs to take command of a match build or just go along for the ride.

You can wrestle Daniel Bryan and be directed to a five star match all you want but if you aren't ready to take the command when wrestling say Zack ryder you won't get nearly the same result.

The guy'll learn off of the likes of Bryan, Taker and Kane though. They'll undoubtedly be giving him tips before and after the match on areas he could improve. I really don't see how he isn't ready to be honest, most the guys in the US division are at least fairly good workers, he isn't gonna struggle to have a ten minute match. If Ryback is in the WWE championship match for this PPV, then Dean Ambrose is certainly good enough to be in the US division.
 

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I think he'll drop it to Ambrose. It seemed like Rollins and Dean were going for the tag belts but I think they've changed their minds and we'll have Rollins and Reigns as a tag team and Ambrose as a singles champion, mostly because he was the one who pinned Kofi but I may be overthinking it.
 

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Swag needs to go back there, but they need the belt on Cesaro or another nonamerican first. Id love the heelvsheel deal. Hell, id buy Ryder somehow winning and going over Swag the first PPV to cement the angle, as Colter would shit on Ryder and make him turn into somethign worthwhile. Eventually, tag team.