Who needs to retire already?

[Roadster]

Then what age?

It's about their activity in the ring.

 

[Roadster]

"I don't know what Cesaro's problem is, but he's just not connecting... maybe he's Swiss?"
*pushes Sheamus*

Thing is, I'm not exactly sold on WWE WITHOUT Vince, either, to be honest.

Idk, usually I'm all about the young talent and have been for about 20,000 posts here, like I'd love to be here saying stuff "Big Show and freaking Kane!!!" but guess they make for fine job guys.
WWE already has new bigs. Samoa Joe, Luke Harper, Baron Corbin... plenty of good Kane replacements even though they won't find another Big Show
Just gets annoying when they randomly pretend they're important when they're not, or has them feud with the same dudes over and over.
Hell, I said I'm rooting for Kane to win the title... can't say I want him to retire now. Downer smiley

No, Mark Henry can stay forever, dammit. :henry:

tl;dripebomb:

 

[Roadster]

I actually did read it, and it sounded more like a preppy Aids' post than anything else, tbh.

 

[edge4ever]

It's about their activity in the ring.

Oh well then that's worse. DB is great in the ring. Just had a stoke of bad luck injuries.

 

[The GOAT]

He is 34. John Cena is 38 (holy crap). I can see JC retiring before DB. And let me go back again and say, holy crap, John Cena is getting old! lol I didn't know he was pushing 30, thought he was like 35.

No wrestler should ever consider retiring as young as 34 (or even 38) unless A. They've lost their passion for pro wrestling, or B. They have a serious injuries forcing them to reconsider whether it's a wise move to continue wrestling or not. It isn't a real sport, the overwhelming majority of wrestlers can easily still go until they're in their mid/late-40's barring any serious injuries.

Shawn Michaels was out with a serious back injury for four and a half years and people doubted he would ever be able to wrestle again. There were even rumors that doing something as simple as an arm drag on his students as his wrestling academy put him in great pain. Yet he returned and wrestled for eight more years, retiring only when he felt it was time to hang it up. He even had one of the most universally praised matches of his career exactly one year before his retirement.

 

[Neptune]

No wrestler should ever consider retiring as young as 34 (or even 38) unless A. They've lost their passion for pro wrestling, or B. They have a serious injuries forcing them to reconsider whether it's a wise move to continue wrestling or not. It isn't a real sport, the overwhelming majority of wrestlers can easily still go until they're in their mid/late-40's barring any serious injuries.

Shawn Michaels was out with a serious back injury for four and a half years and people doubted he would ever be able to wrestle again. There were even rumors that doing something as simple as an arm drag on his students as his wrestling academy put him in great pain. Yet he returned and wrestled for eight more years, retiring only when he felt it was time to hang it up. He even had one of the most universally praised matches of his career exactly one year before his retirement.

I get what you are saying. I said John Cena retiring before DB because he is older and seems more likely to retire when he wants kids. I would imagine he wouldn't want any past 45 but i could be wrong.

And I would say 45 is a good age for most wrestlers to retire. This will prevent future health issues, give them time to enjoy their kids if they have them and their family. I still feel Undertaker should have retired a few years ago. He is still capable of good matches but with a lot of faulty and sloppy executions. Many go beyond this, like Ric Flair, and that is fine but you can't paint them the same way they once were. After a certain age, matches get harder and hits hurt the body more and more, certain moves can' be done or done as good (Taker's tombstone). I mean dude is 50 now and has a wife and a kid I believe. I just wish he would have ended on 20-0.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Oh well then that's worse. DB is great in the ring. Just had a stoke of bad luck injuries.

New Japan Pro Wrestling has a wrestler named Bad Luck Fale, WWE has Bad Luck (Daniel) Bryan.

 

[Wacokid27]

This is strictly "old-school" vs. "new-school" mentality.

Back in the territory days, guys would wrestle into their 40's and early 50's on a regular basis, which is why "old-school" guys like Flair, Taker, Sting, etc., are wrestling/wrestled into their 50's. Remarkably, while the guys who went to that age and had terrible lives afterwards are what you hear about, a huge number of those guys stepped back from their in-ring work (many of them never seemed to completely retire, but would still work the occasional show every now-and-then) and then went on to have long and relatively healthy lives.

The "new-school mentality" says that people can't have careers in active sports past the age of 40 (the whole "40 is old" though process, which is uncomfortable for those of us getting there). While it is true that in the late-30's, early-40's people start to lose advantages in strength and speed, their experience often gives them other edges.

Let me give an example: Samoa Joe is a veteran wrestler, who is 36 years of age and is currently being touted as "part of the future" in NXT. Most people are of the opinion that the day will come (and sooner rather than later) that Joe will make his main roster debut. He'll probably be 36 or 37 when this happens. By the "new-school" mentality, his WWE career will last 2 or 3 years. In reality, Joe will probably wrestle for another decade (and, likely, at a high level) and may one day have a shot at being a main event guy in WWE in his 40's.

All of this is to say that these guys can retire whenever they're ready. I think it's probably time for guys of an extreme (or more extreme) age like Taker and Sting to hang it up, but, if they're still able to go (and this seems to be the case, by the way...both of these men are still drawing crowds and putting on quality matches, haters be damned), then so be it.

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