Who is in need of a gimmick change?

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Hunico needs a finisher that isn't the same as Hardy's finisher too

Hardy didn't invent that move homie

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Not with the way he's been booked throughout the years but that's the sad part. At this point, I feel he could tag team with Santino and do comedy segments with him and he wouldn't even look out of place. At least he still shows a slight bit of seriousness here and there, like when Punk stole Paul Bearer's urn (and hopefully tonight when he teams with Undertaker.)

If they booked him like they did in 1998 consistently how long do you think it would have been before nobody cared about him any longer? They had to change it up to keep him relevant IMO.

 

[Rysenberg]

chill out

You were the one who went all pissy as soon as I gave an opinion on Kane lmao.

 

[catlady]

Also. I wish John Cena would just turn heel already. COME ON! :angry:

 

[Pop Tatari]

Hunico needs a finisher that isn't the same as Hardy's finisher too

Hardy is not in wwe last time i checked.

 

[Nano]

Hardy didn't invent that move homie

I know he didn't create the senton but using it from a high angle is something no one did but using the same finisher with other name for me is a shame!

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I know he didn't create the senton but using it from a high angle is something no one did but using the same finisher with other name for me is a shame!

It would be weird if Hardy were in WWE, but he's not. So they gave the move to someone else. Happens alllllllllllllllll the time.

 

[Nano]

Hardy is not in wwe last time i checked.

He isn't in WWE since 2009 but it's his finisher, the first one who did that move from a high angle, changing its name doesn't make it a new move...

 

[airbourne908]

I would say Tensai but the "Sweet T" gimmick might be the only thing keeping him employed.....

 

[Lockard 23]

If they booked him like they did in 1998 consistently how long do you think it would have been before nobody cared about him any longer? They had to change it up to keep him relevant IMO.

My response to that is to look at the Undertaker. When he debuted, people just thought it was another cartoony gimmick and Foley once noted he thought it would be a 3-4 year character at best. But he gimmick has lasted throughout the years and he's been one of the longest running gimmicks the WWE has ever had. He did switch to the American Bad Ass but only for a few years. If they can do it with Taker, don't see why they couldn't have managed with Kane. He wouldn't have looked like a carbon copy either, Kane is different enough to set him apart.

I liked it when they had Kane finally speak regularly and showed that he had a human side with the way he responded (the night after Fully Loaded 1999) to Taker destroying X-Pac or his love for Tori or even the way he was distraught over Snitsky causing Lita to have a miscarriage. His unmasking was also awesome (burning JR, frying Shane's nuts, no selling Austin's stunner and chair shot and laying him out, burying Undertaker alive, etc.) His friendship with RVD was similar to the Bryan/Kane relationship, except not nearly as comedic or corny. It was also part

Him slapping Bryan on the ass or doing a rap video with Bryan or a number of other things, I do not care for.

 

[Pop Tatari]

He isn't in WWE since 2009 but it's his finisher, the first one who did that move from a high angle, changing its name doesn't make it a new move...

I was being sarcastic dude,also just because Hardy done the move does not mean he created it. Also Hunico has won numerous matches with different moves. Seriously Nano wise up.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Fair enough. I also think they could have toned down parts of the childish comedic element and incorporated Kane as more of a badass in others, but all in all it has been more entertaining than not IMO. But as you've said the way he has been booked at this point what more could they be doing? I think they are taking lemons and making lemonade with the current Kane character we see. They tried making him badass against Cena and it became the biggest joke feud to the IWC in god knows how long.

 

[seabs]

Taker is the exception not the rule IMO, he has more natural charisma than Kane plus he was already established as a part of the WWE's framework before the product became less gimmicky, Kane only came around as the gimmicks were becoming grittier.

 

[Nano]

It would be weird if Hardy were in WWE, but he's not. So they gave the move to someone else. Happens alllllllllllllllll the time.

I know, even they do that with retired people (like with Punk or Bryan, but they used at least once the real name). The shame is that even a wrestler they were interested in when his contract was almost expired they still have that cheap copy of him...

 

[Lockard 23]

Fair enough. I also think they could have toned down parts of the childish comedic element and incorporated Kane as more of a badass in others, but all in all it has been more entertaining than not IMO. But as you've said the way he has been booked at this point what more could they be doing? I think they are taking lemons and making lemonade with the current Kane character we see. They tried making him badass against Cena and it became the biggest joke feud to the IWC in god knows how long.

The Cena feud probably failed because it was born out of the terrible Cena/Eve/Ryder shit. And the bad booking of Kane throughout the years might have hurt his image as a monster so I suppose you might be right. (EDIT: Ok, the Eve and Ryder stuff actually happened later, but it was still apart of it.)

It also had one of the best unintentionally comedy lines ever when Kane said he would hurt Cena so bad that he wouldn't be able to wrestle ever again until Wrestlemania.