Who hear watched Hitman Hart: Wrestling With Shadows?

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Beyond The Mat is awesome but Wrestling With Shadows is interesting to look at, too. It was a chaotic time concerning the whole issue with Bret's departure and the creative decisions being made backstage surrounding it (there were a bazillion different endings tossed out for the Bret/Shawn match), and this movie is a cool look at it. It's also partly responsible for the theory that Montreal was a work because if you go back to around January 1997, Bret's character is crying about getting screwed (referring to Austin's tainted victory at the '97 Royal Rumble.) Then again the next month when Austin cost him the title against Sid the night after In Your House: Final Four in Febuary. Then again in March when he cut the infamous promo where he said "god damn" and "bullshit" unbleeped on Raw, after Undertaker cost him winning the title back from Sid in the cage match.

This was sort of a common trait for his heel character almost the entire time leading up to Survivor Series afterwards, where he really does end up screwed. Keep in mind Bret was also talking about being "screwed" in real life because he was scared he was losing his top heel spot to Shawn Michaels. Many looked at all of this and saw how coincidental it was that Bret's character whined this whole time about being screwed over, only to really suffer this fate in real life. It was almost as if it was built up over a long period of time.

Then there's the documentary. They started filming it a few weeks or so before Survivor Series, where the infamous Montreal Screw Job took place. I always (and so did many others) found it very coincidental that the movie just happened to start filming right in the middle of all this going down. What happened in Montreal was the perfect dramatic capper for the movie (keeping in mind now that the filmmakers and Bret had no idea it was going to happen), which had Bret on there the whole time summing up how he's been screwed both in real life and on-screen for the past several months before it took place. Then there's Vince seen wobbling after the off-screen punch he took and Bret catching him lying on a wire before that. Vince would have had to give his permission for those two things to show on the movie, and some scratch their heads as to why Vince would allow it, putting him in something of a bad light.

I personally don't think it was a work and that there's logical points against these things, but it's interesting to think about. There ARE some wrestlers who still think it was a work or at least could have been plausibly, so it's not totally out there.

 

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Beyond The Mat is awesome but Wrestling With Shadows is interesting to look at, too. It was a chaotic time concerning the whole issue with Bret's departure and the creative decisions being made backstage surrounding it (there were a bazillion different endings tossed out for the Bret/Shawn match), and this movie is a cool look at it. It's also partly responsible for the theory that Montreal was a work because if you go back to around January 1997, Bret's character is crying about getting screwed (referring to Austin's tainted victory at the '97 Royal Rumble.) Then again the next month when Austin cost him the title against Sid the night after In Your House: Final Four in Febuary. Then again in March when he cut the infamous promo where he said "god damn" and "bullshit" unbleeped on Raw, after Undertaker cost him winning the title back from Sid in the cage match.

This was sort of a common trait for his heel character almost the entire time leading up to Survivor Series afterwards, where he really does end up screwed. Keep in mind Bret was also talking about being "screwed" in real life because he was scared he was losing his top heel spot to Shawn Michaels. Many looked at all of this and saw how coincidental it was that Bret's character whined this whole time about being screwed over, only to really suffer this fate in real life. It was almost as if it was built up over a long period of time.

Then there's the documentary. They started filming it a few weeks or so before Survivor Series, where the infamous Montreal Screw Job took place. I always (and so did many others) found it very coincidental that the movie just happened to start filming right in the middle of all this going down. What happened in Montreal was the perfect dramatic capper for the movie (keeping in mind now that the filmmakers and Bret had no idea it was going to happen), which had Bret on there the whole time summing up how he's been screwed both in real life and on-screen for the past several months before it took place. Then there's Vince seen wobbling after the off-screen punch he took and Bret catching him lying on a wire before that. Vince would have had to give his permission for those two things to show on the movie, and some scratch their heads as to why Vince would allow it, putting him in something of a bad light.

I personally don't think it was a work and that there's logical points against these things, but it's interesting to think about. There ARE some wrestlers who still think it was a work or at least could have been plausibly, so it's not totally out there.

yes i heard u on there. the whole 1997 thing of him being "screw" it was wedd how it just all end up him being screw at the end the years. but the fact is it was not a work. And u also forget that back in though days wrestler were alot to make movie of doumently as long as that could film maker to do it. And Breat had 30 day clase that alot him to do whatever want to his wwf person which is what leatd to the screw as Bret have the power to not alot Shawn to win it.