WrestleMania Where will the swerve come from?

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Orton turning, I think.

How is something everyone expects a 'swerve' ?

 

[Leo C]

How is something everyone expects a 'swerve' ?

For us it isn't, yeah, but I suppose it'd be a swerve for the marks since they didn't hint it at all, idk.

 

[Nano]

Miz finally wins a midcard title :silva:

 

[Senhor Perfect]

Miz finally wins a midcard title :silva:

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[Dolph'sZiggler]

Miz finally wins a midcard title :silva:

Finally? He's already had them both

 

[Nano]

Finally? He's already had them both

I know, I mean in this role, he's the one who has wrestled more for a midcard title this year and finally he wins one again. The las one he won was the IC title and won it to Christian at Raw 1000

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Doesn't seem like a swerve to me.

 

[arianna]

Daniel Bryan will come out with a Grizzly Bear

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[seabs]

Miz winning isn't a swerve, does anyone have enough of a fuck to have even planned an ending to that to be swerved even. The only swerves they could really pull is that old chestnut a John Cena heel turn. Not even H retiring feels big enough to justify this when he's wrestled about 5 times in the past 2 years (Punk NOC, Nash TLC, Taker at WM X 2 and Brock at Summerslam. Am I missing anything? )

 

[Farooq]

Judging by this entire thread, there seems to be no positive swerve, or any swerve at all...

 

[Leo C]

Miz winning isn't a swerve, does anyone have enough of a fuck to have even planned an ending to that to be swerved even. The only swerves they could really pull is that old chestnut a John Cena heel turn. Not even H retiring feels big enough to justify this when he's wrestled about 5 times in the past 2 years (Punk NOC, Nash TLC, Taker at WM X 2 and Brock at Summerslam. Am I missing anything? )

I think there was a tag team match with Punk vs Awesome Truth.

 

[seabs]

I think there was a tag team match with Punk vs Awesome Truth.

You're right somewhere I think, Vengance?

 

[Leo C]

You're right somewhere I think, Vengance?

Yep.

 

[Mustafar Reginald]

It was Helen Hart at Survivor Series 1994 that threw in the towel, so it doesn't have to be a manager. I would think Stephanie would make sense considering they're not only married but ultimately linked to the future of the company and this feud was flared up again all because of Lesnar attacking Vince so there's the whole tie-in to Brock disrespecting the McMahon family as a whole. The logic would follow that someone from that circle (the one closet to HHH, Stephanie) would be right to throw in the towel for Triple H. HBK doing it would make sense as well, though.

Either way, I don't see this happening, but it's a cool scenario to think about. I personally don't want HHH to retire just yet, to be honest. He still has enough gas left in the tank to be an asset in working with other guys (Ambrose, Reigns, Rollins, etc.) in the future. I just want to see Brock win.

As for the Orton turn, he does seem like someone who can go off and attack a fellow teammate or 'friend' at any moment but because he's already RKOed Sheamus (and a couple of other faces, I think) without being seen as a heel shows it would have to take more than just doing it again after or during the Wrestlemania match to go heel. Are The Shield so hated that Orton doing that and walking out on his team and leaving them to take the loss would be enough to make him heel again? I think it would probably have to take a bit more than that before we see Orton make the full transition back into being the vicious Viper.

Okay thanks for the info. I still disagree with the logic behind it but that goes far beyond just wrestling so I'll ignore it. As for the feud, I just want it over with. I don't really care who wins, but I do think it's obvious that Trips is winning.

As for Orton, I'd like to think The Shield are hated enough for it to work (along with it being Mania and such) but I can't say for certain. I certainly think it's the best way they could go about a heel turn for Orton though. I mean, there is a pretty big difference from when he RKO'd Sheamus then to him doing that at Mania and that being that nothing was really at stake when he RKO'd Sheamus. There is something a stake here so, yeah I think it might work. Even if it does take more, it's a great starting point.

Do some people know what a swerve is? A swerve is when people know they're going one way (I.E Orton turning or Taker winning) and then they do the opposite.

Orton turning heel is not a swerve.

Pretty much what Leo C said earlier. I don't think there'll be a swerve for us, but the more casual audiences/mark probably don't see Orton turning heel coming.

 

[Snowman1]

How is something everyone expects a 'swerve' ?

The only way it's expected is through our wishful thinking. Big Show seems like the obvious one as the guy who's causing the dissent among the babyfaces, so Orton turning actually would be a swerve.

Hate it though, keep Orton far away from the Shield and let him turn at Summerslam.