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I don't see why people are complaining about the way that RAW ended this Monday Night...

Sure it was confusing to many people and disgusting to others but in my opinion it was a classic unpredictable ending by Regal coming out and "pulling the plug" Something different and innovative, in fact I loved the way they did it.
 

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Its supposed to piss you off. That's the point.
yea, i guess thats what TNA's been doing right? and MMA...oh boy, MMA pisses you off. thats the point >_> its not that the show sucks, it did its job by pissing you off. seriously, wtf?

maybe it would've worked if:
1) i didnt know wrestling was scripted. cuz right now im not blaming regal...and if you go take a look at wwe.com's poll, they're trying to reach the fans and see what they think. HEY, im not the only one who's not blaming regal! 5#% are blaming VINCE for what happened on raw.

2) ..well, i dont get pissed off. they can piss off the crowd by insulting their town and whatever...that pisses off the smarks too. im different though, the only way they can piss me off is.........................................hit on my girlfriend :p


btw, weird thought. could they be unifying the titles or at least getting a new belt for smackdown?
 

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yea, i guess thats what TNA's been doing right? and MMA...oh boy, MMA pisses you off. thats the point >_> its not that the show sucks, it did its job by pissing you off. seriously, wtf?

No the point of the MMA style match was not to get heat, it was to try and work a new kind of match. Try again.


1) i didnt know wrestling was scripted. cuz right now im not blaming regal...and if you go take a look at wwe.com's poll, they're trying to reach the fans and see what they think. HEY, im not the only one who's not blaming regal! 5#% are blaming VINCE for what happened on raw.
Its called "engaged suspension of disbelief". We know Regal didnt do it, but its fun to get mad at someone. There are tons of shows on TV that exist on that basis alone. Do you think people actually watch The O'Riley Factor because they want to be informed? Shit no, they want to be mad at someone, and Bill O'Riley is a hateable guy. Hell, part of American Idol is based on that too. Most people hate Simon Cowell, he's a heel. And while they do tune in to see people sing, they also tune in because they know Simon, at some point, is gonna be a fucking asshole. If he wasnt, the show wouldnt be as popular. You cant have a show with ALL NICE PEOPLE, there has to be something, somewhere in a show, that gets the peoples goat.
 

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No the point of the MMA style match was not to get heat, it was to try and work a new kind of match. Try again.
lets say they titled MMA with "boring fucking TV shows". would you love it cuz it pisses you off? i mean, it would be their target...but the show's the fuckin same. there are more ways to piss me off other than makin up ridiculous storylines
Its called "engaged suspension of disbelief". We know Regal didnt do it, but its fun to get mad at someone. There are tons of shows on TV that exist on that basis alone. Do you think people actually watch The O'Riley Factor because they want to be informed? Shit no, they want to be mad at someone, and Bill O'Riley is a hateable guy. Hell, part of American Idol is based on that too. Most people hate Simon Cowell, he's a heel. And while they do tune in to see people sing, they also tune in because they know Simon, at some point, is gonna be a fucking asshole. If he wasnt, the show wouldnt be as popular. You cant have a show with ALL NICE PEOPLE, there has to be something, somewhere in a show, that gets the peoples goat.
thats what separates good films from the bad ones. some just make "suspending your disbelief" more difficult than building a spaceship. i dont see you suspending your disbelief when you watch TNA.
 

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lets say they titled MMA with "boring fucking TV shows". would you love it cuz it pisses you off?
But they didn't, thats the point, and they never would, because in the opinion of those who really like it, its not boring.

i mean, it would be their target...but the show's the fuckin same.
Their target is to make as much money as possible. And having something that people see as boring doesnt draw heat. If the people are bored, really bored, they will sit there and not respond. Thats not heat.


there are more ways to piss me off other than makin up ridiculous storylines
Yes, I forgot, the WWE is just trying to get heat from TDK and no one else....


thats what separates good films from the bad ones. some just make "suspending your disbelief" more difficult than building a spaceship. i dont see you suspending your disbelief when you watch TNA.
I do when I actually watch it and I dont see something really fucking stupid that actually MAKE IT HARD to suspend disbelief, like heels fighting heels, faces fighting faces, and other things that show that they dont really give a flying fuck about that kind of thing. You're not suspending your disbelief because they WWE is making it hard, you're not doing it because you dont want to. You dont want to "mark out" because then you're "just a dumb mark". When you go see Batman, do you actually fucking believe that he can jump off a rooftop and glide down to the street using molecular memory cloth that is activated by sending an electrical pulse through it? No. Why? Because you WANT to do it then. You dont WANT to do it with wrestling for some reason. More power to you, you dont have to, but dont say "They WWE are writing shit storylines and thats why I cant suspend my disbelief" when you clearly dont want to.
 

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But they didn't, thats the point, and they never would, because in the opinion of those who really like it, its not boring.
hypothetically.............................................................

Their target is to make as much money as possible. And having something that people see as boring doesnt draw heat. If the people are bored, really bored, they will sit there and not respond. Thats not heat.
when you pay 400 USD for a ticket then watch a boring show, you're gonna start the heat.

boredom doesn't mean silence...............it leads to anger eventually. like when you scream IM SO FUCKING BORED IM GONNA GO KILL MY FRIENDS THEN SHOOT MYSELF.

Yes, I forgot, the WWE is just trying to get heat from TDK and no one else....
yes i forgot, im not allowed to state my opinion here. im supposed to see what 98% of the fans wanna see, and just follow it. even the fans are gonna put over someone as Blue michael cole as wwe champwhat the fuck is the point of kissing the crowd's ass?

i dont have to cheer for someone cuz he's over....fuck being over man, fuck being liked by every single person on earth. if I, myself dont like him, ill fucking say it.


I do when I actually watch it and I dont see something really fucking stupid that actually MAKE IT HARD to suspend disbelief, like heels fighting heels, faces fighting faces, and other things that show that they dont really give a flying fuck about that kind of thing. You're not suspending your disbelief because they WWE is making it hard, you're not doing it because you dont want to. You dont want to "mark out" because then you're "just a dumb mark". When you go see Batman, do you actually fucking believe that he can jump off a rooftop and glide down to the street using molecular memory cloth that is activated by sending an electrical pulse through it? No. Why? Because you WANT to do it then. You dont WANT to do it with wrestling for some reason. More power to you, you dont have to, but dont say "They WWE are writing shit storylines and thats why I cant suspend my disbelief" when you clearly dont want to.
1)there's a difference between suspending disbelief and lying to yourself.

when they put a boring show and they're expecting me to say its awesome, and i do say its awesome= lying to myself.

crying after watching a romantic film=suspending disbelief.

2) so their target is make as much money as they can right? and its not pleasing the fans right? so when you watch an extremely boring show with a lot of crap that doesn't make sense, are you gonna say its awesome just cuz they fooled you and got your money?

3) i marked out when batman glided cuz it looked cool. and it actually makes sense.....you CAN glide with something like that if it was there. but there isnt...at least not yet.

4) you're acting like im some TNA sheep who doesn't suspend his disbelief at all. when rock shows up on the screen i scream like johny bravo. when kane's about to pin someone i get on my knees and count with the referee. when jeff hardy kicked out of the pedigree at NWO i almost got a heart attack. when hbk hit the SCM on jericho a couple of weeks ago i WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOed. see? when they do something right, i like it. what they're doing now is just fucking stupid....well, tbh just the regal thing. ecw's move and sd's are ok....and they kinda make sense.
 

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when you pay 400 USD for a ticket then watch a boring show, you're gonna start the heat.

boredom doesn't mean silence...............it leads to anger eventually. like when you scream IM SO FUCKING BORED IM GONNA GO KILL MY FRIENDS THEN SHOOT MYSELF.
Do you remember the response Chris Masters got for the first....6months to a year he was in the WWE? NO RESPONSE AT ALL. The fans didnt boo, they just went to get food or a tshirt. For 6 months to a year, night after night, Raw after Raw, and PPV after PPV, he was there. And did he get heat? No. The fans didnt care.



yes i forgot, im not allowed to state my opinion here. im supposed to see what 98% of the fans wanna see, and just follow it. even the fans are gonna put over someone as Blue michael cole as wwe champwhat the fuck is the point of kissing the crowd's ass?

i dont have to cheer for someone cuz he's over....fuck being over man, fuck being liked by every single person on earth. if I, myself dont like him, ill fucking say it.
Drop the righteous indignation. If you dont like someone that great, but dont expect the WWE to please you and only you.


1)there's a difference between suspending disbelief and lying to yourself.

when they put a boring show and they're expecting me to say its awesome, and i do say its awesome= lying to myself.

crying after watching a romantic film=suspending disbelief.
Actually thats the very definition of suspension of disbelief. Do you truly believe Spiderman can stick to a fuck wall? No, you lie to yourself.

2) so their target is make as much money as they can right? and its not pleasing the fans right? so when you watch an extremely boring show with a lot of crap that doesn't make sense, are you gonna say its awesome just cuz they fooled you and got your money?
They way you make as much money as possible means pleasing as many people as possible. Giving them something they want to see. Be it an asshole they can hate, or a hero they can cheer.


4) you're acting like im some TNA sheep who doesn't suspend his disbelief at all.
Nah, it has nothing to do with liking TNA.

When rock shows up on the screen i scream like johny bravo. when kane's about to pin someone i get on my knees and count with the referee. when jeff hardy kicked out of the pedigree at NWO i almost got a heart attack. when hbk hit the SCM on jericho a couple of weeks ago i WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOed. see? when they do something right, i like it. what they're doing now is just fucking stupid....well, tbh just the regal thing. ecw's move and sd's are ok....and they kinda make sense.
Thats because you WANTED to get behind them, and thats awesome. But just because you dont want to get behind something doenst make it stupid or illogical. As I've said in the SB, logic is a universal thing and isnt subjective. What is "illogical" about a person who feels he's being disrespected trying to fuck over the people who disrespected him?