God that 'poster' is so fucking totally BKB! I swear he's the only other one I've seen say that stuff about Kurt.
Only one on this forum, but that doesn't really surprise me a whole lot. Most people here are huge SPOTZ type of guys, and aside from you, I haven't seen anyone actually defend Angle with any real substance.
And nah, I'd never try to have an intelligent convo w/Lucas, cos you know it's just impossible. ;D
The guy is definitely one of the greatest professional wrestlers in the past decade no doubt about that.
But if you ask me as of right now, I really don't care for him anymore.
Kurt Angle came into TNA with such momentum, had a great angle with Samoa Joe, great matches with AJ Styles and Jeff Jarrett, and managed to win the IWGP and TNA titles to his resume. However, over the past 2 or so years in TNA, I really have lost interest in Angle. He was looking bad at one point. He got really skinny, real pale, started growing his hair back, looked like he was going insane, but then again he was dealing with alot of problems. He did that stint with the Main Event Mafia which was a total bomb. They could have been the greatest stable ever, but TNA messed that one up. Sometimes I watch TNA lately and it is almost like Kurt Angle doesn't exist. Who knew Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair's arrival could push Angle so far aside. His program with Anderson has been an intense and passionate one, but for me anyways, since Anderson was involved I just totally didn't pay attention. However, I did watch it for the most part and still Kurt's role in TNA has really shrunk. TNA really depleted my interest in Angle.
When Angle was in WWE though, he was flawless, definitely one of my favorites. His matches and feuds were insane.
He won the FAKE IWGP Title.
Whoever thinks he's trash is just trying too hard to sound smart, and is over-analyzing things.
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I assume this is directed towards the fact that he's very spot heavy, which he is. Throwing meaningless shit into a match is a big problem in TNA in general, and Angle only adds to that.
As shocking as it may sound, Axis probably comes closest to what I think on Angle. However, I still differ somewhat.
First of all, I think Angle can still put on the great matches, even in a short amount of time. I still think though, that he's going to have to be out there with a superior worker who is willing to guide him (ie 'Taker or even backstage agents, which don't appear to be doing shit in TNA) as to what he should be doing. The problem is that on his own, Angle relies far too heavily on spots for mine, and is also far too formulaic in the style that he depends on against almost everyone. He needs that guidance.
His matches with AJ Styles earlier this year sum up my thoughts pretty perfectly. AJ is a guy that relies on spots a bit too heavily too, and when mixed with Angle, what did we get? A logical match? Nope. Just a shitload of finishes and spots all thrown together for the sake of it. I've had this discussion w/Great One, but I'll throw it out here too, but I also hate the way in which he wrestled his matches with Wolfe by going out there and using a side headlock to show his hatred to kick the match off. You don't show your hatred by locking in a resthold. Awful.
Still, with all that said, Angle does what he knows works for the TNA crowd, who in general seem to enjoy spotfests, and bumps like a fucking trooper, which I can't help but feel he'll end up regretting majorly. Do I still think the guy can do something great like he did with Lesnar in 2003, or 'Taker in '03/'06? Sure. Do I think it could possibly happen in TNA, though? Nope.
