People are always going to bitch. Had Ziggler pinned Kingston cleanly, people would be complaining of how Kingston has jobbed to Dolph for a month straight, and in the other way around, how the are burying Ziggler by having him lose the title so early.
Kingston job to Ziggler a month straight? Maybe I'm wrong but Ziggler has beaten Kofi twice in the last month. When he got the # 1 contender slot and when he won the title.
The WWE Championship match....you get 18 minutes of solid wrestling yet you complain over the ending. I find it pretty funny that you decide to act all smark on certain aspects, yet with the Sheamus character you suddenly decide to ignore the fact that heels are booked to look cowardly and have been booked that way for practically the entire history of the business. Oh, and BTW, the story of the feud isn't Sheamus being afraid of Orton, is Sheamus not being able to put Orton away.
When you have a match, your suppose to tell a story. Stories have endings. There was no ending to that particular chapter because of the screw job finish. Oh, and BTW, Sheamus isn't built up to be cowardly. He's built as a monster. He's suppose to look strong. Does he look strong? Yeah. Against lower card guys. He needs to look good against main eventers. I don't have as much a problem with using the ropes for the pin, using a weapon and then hiding it, using outside interference, just have him pin someone 1, 2, 3. I'd say submission but as we all know, he doesn't use them. Stop protecting your top guys so fucking much were they can't take a 1, 2, 3. If I'm suppose to believe Sheamus is on the same level as these guys, why isn't he pinning them?
Women's division suddenly doesn't care, altough I am sure had Laycool interfered during the match and caused a DQ, I'm sure they would be just as important as any other match in this argument.
Suddenly doesn't care? WWE's woman's division hasn't been relevant for a long time. I didn't say much about the woman's title match. I just mentioned it. Why? Because it's shit and not the point.
Team WWE vs Team Nexus, you know, the match the entire PPV was built around, ended cleanly. Same for the World Heavyweight Championship Match. And the matches that ended in DQ or some "lame finish", they were actually pretty good
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PPV TITLE MATCHES!!! Was the match the entire ppv built around a title match? No. Hence the reason why I didn't mention it. The World Heavyweight title watch ended clean, HENCE, the reason why I didn't put that on the list.
Watching matches on ppv's, I expect some type of finish. The paying customers deserve to have a finish. But when you have a ppv with only 6 matches, 4 of them being title matches, and 2 out of 6 of those matches don't have finishes, it's ridiculous imo. When those 2 matches are title matches, it's just sad.
I honestly can't remember the last time that a heel went over a babyface totally and completely clean in a title match anyway that didn't have some sort of gimmick attached to it.
I don't think Bonez main argument is about those kind of clean finishes anyway, I think it's more about having a definitive pinfall or submission finish, dirty or not. It can be underwhelming seeing an exciting 18 minute main event and have it just end on a DQ, I'd much rather Sheamus would of gotten away with blasting Orton with a chair and winning cheap like that, rather than just getting himself DQ'd for chucking the referee.
I'd agree with you Maty. Being the Sheamus mark that I am. Sheamus is a 6'6" 270lbs MONSTER sized man. He should be bulldozing over the competition in ways that would make Brock Lesnar jealous. Lesnar was a similar monster heel that was to dangerous and dominant he got clean victories over the likes of The Rock, The Undertaker & Kurt Angle.
They haven't done that with Sheamus, as for some reason they are afraid to make guys like Cena & Orton "look bad" by losing to a qualified opponent. Triple H did the right thing and put over Sheamus like he should be. But then again, Triple H is good buddies with Sheamus backstage, so of course he would be willing to give Sheamus the dupe.
Batista as a monster heel got clean wins. Kane as a monster heel gets clean wins. Big Show as a monster heel got clean wins. I don't see things should be any different for the Celtic Warrior.
That's exactly what I mean. He's a heel, so I expect heel tactics, But not campy DQ's.