I have been contemplating my responses to this for 4 hours now, and I've come to the same conclusion that Jake has come to above, where none of you are going to see eye to eye with me and vice versa. Let's just leave it at us all agreeing that scumbags are bad, because I believe that's the general consensus we can all have, and if anyone would like to make the argument that scumbags are good, well hey, go fuck yourself. Not trying to paint myself in any worse of a picture than I need to, especially when it's clear that my thoughts aren't translating to words as well as I would have liked, and I'm not trying to pointlessly argue with people who I for the most part basically consider friends.