Vince calling someone else out for presenting "tawdry"

[Double J]

TNA president Dixie Carter responded to Vince McMahon's criticism of TNA in an interview published yesterday with a post on Twitter.

"To be called tawdry from the King of Tawdry, that is some compliment!" Carter said.

Regarding TNA, McMahon told Acorn Online: "When they moved to Monday nights, they threw the kitchen sink at us and only did a fraction of our audience. It doesn't speak well for the type of product they're trying to present with the tawdry, blood-soaked action. I don't think that's what the culture wants these days."

Furthermore, Taz also noted the following in regards to McMahon's comments: "Mae Young stuff is all high road, or when JR was sick Dr Hynee bit (classy)! Pot, meet Kettle. Nice to see VKM is a TNA viewer!" Taz is right on the money with that statement.

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The Acorn Online (http://www.acorn-online.com/) interviewed Vince McMahon to discuss WresteMania. The piece also included McMahon discussing TNA, here is what he had to say…

"We're in different businesses. We're in the entertainment business and they're in the 'pro wrasslin' business. It's different markets. When they moved to Monday nights they threw the kitchen sink at us and only did a fraction of our audience. It doesn't speak well for the type of product they're trying to present with the tawdry, blood-soaked action. I don't think that's what the culture wants these days."

So they're not in the 'pro wrestling business' anymore, that explains why so many great wrestlers are fired from there.

 

[Axis]

...How many great wrestlers are fired from WWE?

 

[Nation]

...How many great wrestlers are fired from WWE?

Fixed.

 

[gatesoftanhauser]

Yeah because Katie Vick, Al Wilson, Stripper bashing, Crotch pointing, Mark Henry's fascination with birdies, Race angles and stereotypes aren't "Tawdry" right Vince?

Come on...

 

[monkeystyle]

Vince only remembers what he did last month.

 

[THE Brian Kendrick's Biceps]

So they're not in the 'pro wrestling business' anymore, that explains why so many great wrestlers are fired from there.

We already knew WWE was in no way about great wrestling. Sure, it helps if someone is a great wrestler, but what they're looking for is marketability and appeal to the audience. If they posses both qualities, like Cena for example, well then you're just getting a bonus there.

 

[the408kid]

^^
Agreed! Remember the famous phone call with Mc Mahon and Ted Turner when he bought the NWA,turned it into WCW, and told Vince he was in the "Wrasslin business". Vince turned around and told him that's nice but "I'm in the sports entertainment business, two different things."

 

[Axis]

Fixed.

stfu

 

[Charismatic Edge]

This is all very strange to me. I love entertainment, I love rasslin. There's room on the market for both.

I love TNA but Vince was right when saying that they brought in heavy hitters like RVD and Jeff Hardy and it didn't even make a blip on the radar. Remember though, in 1993 WCW was losing money and 3 years later, well, it was just 2 ssswwweeeeeetttt!

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

The only two valuable pieces the E has lost are Angle and Hardy. THAT's IT.
And they weren't fired, one was going to die if he didn't take a sabbatical and the other is a burnout who's only in TNA because drug peddling got him into trouble with Johnny Law.

Everyone whom the E has fired isn't that great, to the dismay of the few who think dudes like Charlie Hass, Brian Kendrick and Kennedy should be multiple time world champions, despite never drawing a square on an Etch-A-Sketch.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

Uhmm, Vince isn't saying they havent done racy angles. They are saying they don't do it anymore because the audience don't want to see that at this point in time.

 

[The Rated "R" Superstar]

Enzo probably makes the best point so far guys. The ONLY former star that made a significant impact was Angle. Hell even bringing Hogan in to "run things" didn't really do squat.

Also...Vince is right. WWE and TNA are perfect examples of apples to oranges. That Angle/Styles match the night Hogan came to TNA and they went head to head with Raw....that match was incredible, old-school, wrestling match. WWE saves that kind of thing for the PPVs so they can get the cash. Raw and Smackdown! are all about setting up the storylines to drag us in and pay the 50 bucks a month to see how it plays it in the end. And I personally...still love it! TNA is and always will be a different breed of animal. You can't really call it the minor leagues of WWE, because it's not even the same sport.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

Also...Vince is right. WWE and TNA are perfect examples of apples to oranges. That Angle/Styles match the night Hogan came to TNA and they went head to head with Raw....that match was incredible, old-school, wrestling match. WWE saves that kind of thing for the PPVs so they can get the cash. Raw and Smackdown! are all about setting up the storylines to drag us in and pay the 50 bucks a month to see how it plays it in the end. And I personally...still love it! TNA is and always will be a different breed of animal. You can't really call it the minor leagues of WWE, because it's not even the same sport.

Not neccesarily PPVs, but they do matches like that when they do matter. TNA gave us Kurt Angle vs AJ Styles 3 times in the span of what, a month? WWE knows how and when to give us quality matches in TNA and make them mean something when they do happen.

 

[MizMasta3000]

Difference though in TNA, you can't predict who's going to win 100% of the time unlike WWE.

 

[The Rated "R" Superstar]

I could argue....it's because WWE IS sports entertainment so they need their top selling stars to continue to stay on top....while TNA can afford to give pushes more regularly and on a pretty random basis. Aga pin just another example that proves the point Vince was trying to make.