Night of Champions US Title going on last? (They Wouldn't Really Do this.... Would They? II)

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Yeah, I'm expecting a Kyle/Fish feud, too. They're hot in New Japan and I doubt they'll be splitting as soon as Destruction In Kobe (which is on September 27), plus New Japan needs to frig off from playing hot potatoes with the Jr. tag titles.
 

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I've said it before, but if Cena regains the title, then giving it to Rollins in the first place was dumb and totally unnecessary.

I don't bet on seeing him keep it for very much longer either way. I can't see Rollins walking around with both championships for too long, and for obvious reasons, he'd almost certainly lose the United States Championship before he would the WWE Championship.

Plus, we all know how rare it is for Cena to lose two straight matches in a feud with pretty much anyone, clean or not. He beat The Rock in their Wrestlemania rematch. He went 2-1 with Bray Wyatt. He lost to Rusev the first go around, and then made up for it by beating him three times in a row. He lost the first match to Kevin Owens in as clean a manner as possible, but then pinned him and forced him to submit in two consecutive rematches. He got destroyed by Brock Lesnar at Summerslam, but then was booked to look like he had the rematch won the next month, followed by weeks and weeks of the commentators reminding us over and over again that Cena would probably be champion had it not been for Rollins' interference (he did lose the triple-threat match to Lesnar at the Rumble, but they made sure to protect him as much as possible by having Seth eat the pin instead.)

If Seth does walk out still the United States Champion this Sunday, I'd bet the farm that it won't be by pinfall.
 

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I hope he loses both the belts, but something tells me he will win both matches.
 

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Im thinking Jay will retain, but you never know truly know I suppose.

Too much is invested in both men. No way they're losing, especially Lethal. However, I'm not 100% sure about Rollins.

Lethal losing the TV title wouldn't be a bad thing and personally I'd be fine with it, since, you know, he's been the longest reigning TV champ of all time and Bobby Fish getting that rub would be nice in my book.
But, on the other hand, if WWE decides to switch the US title back to Cena, then that'd be lame, and not because CENAWINSLOL, but because giving Rollins the US title in the first place was unnecessary.
 

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Too much is invested in both men. No way they're losing, especially Lethal. However, I'm not 100% sure about Rollins.

Lethal losing the TV title wouldn't be a bad thing and personally I'd be fine with it, since, you know, he's been the longest reigning TV champ of all time and Bobby Fish getting that rub would be nice in my book.
But, on the other hand, if WWE decides to switch the US title back to Cena, then that'd be lame, and not because CENAWINSLOL, but because giving Rollins the US title in the first place was unnecessary.

My honest feeling is that, if he was going to lose one of the titles, Rollins would lose the WHC and keep the U.S. Title.

I don't see him losing both matches and, given the feeling of the end of Raw, I don't see him losing either title. If he does, it will be losing the WHC to Sheamus in an MITB cash-in.

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My honest feeling is that, if he was going to lose one of the titles, Rollins would lose the WHC and keep the U.S. Title.

I don't see him losing both matches and, given the feeling of the end of Raw, I don't see him losing either title. If he does, it will be losing the WHC to Sheamus in an MITB cash-in.

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I'm sorry but seth isn't losing the WWE WHC
 

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My honest feeling is that, if he was going to lose one of the titles, Rollins would lose the WHC and keep the U.S. Title.

I don't see him losing both matches and, given the feeling of the end of Raw, I don't see him losing either title. If he does, it will be losing the WHC to Sheamus in an MITB cash-in.

wk

Rollins losing the WWE-WHC to Sheamus would be lame. I don't see him losing both matches, as well, but you never know if WWE might decide to go like "LOL. SWERVE. ROLLINS JOBS."
 

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All or nothing. I hope he either wins it all or loses it all, and I don't really care if the U.S title closes the show, but I would be upset if the WWE championship were to open it, that's a no no.
 

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I don't bet on seeing him keep it for very much longer either way. I can't see Rollins walking around with both championships for too long, and for obvious reasons, he'd almost certainly lose the United States Championship before he would the WWE Championship.

Plus, we all know how rare it is for Cena to lose two straight matches in a feud with pretty much anyone, clean or not. He beat The Rock in their Wrestlemania rematch. He went 2-1 with Bray Wyatt. He lost to Rusev the first go around, and then made up for it by beating him three times in a row. He lost the first match to Kevin Owens in as clean a manner as possible, but then pinned him and forced him to submit in two consecutive rematches. He got destroyed by Brock Lesnar at Summerslam, but then was booked to look like he had the rematch won the next month, followed by weeks and weeks of the commentators reminding us over and over again that Cena would probably be champion had it not been for Rollins' interference (he did lose the triple-threat match to Lesnar at the Rumble, but they made sure to protect him as much as possible by having Seth eat the pin instead.)

If Seth does walk out still the United States Champion this Sunday, I'd bet the farm that it won't be by pinfall.
I can bet that WWE is still deliberating on the actual finish for the Cena/Rollins match as we speak.
Suppose Sting/Rollins goes first, how weak would Cena look if he couldn't beat a 'tired' Rollins cleanly?
Also, next month is the 'Hell in a Cell' PPV. I suspect that Cena and Rollins will end their feud there.
If Rollins retains, will he be pulling double duty at 'Hell in a Cell'? Would it truly make sense for Sting/Rollins to headline that event as opposed to Cena/Rollins?

I'm actually of the belief Cena should win the title back only so he can drop it cleanly to Sami Zayn later on. Rollins dropping to a newcomer would be counter productive.
 

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I can bet that WWE is still deliberating on the actual finish for the Cena/Rollins match as we speak.
Suppose Sting/Rollins goes first, how weak would Cena look if he couldn't beat a 'tired' Rollins cleanly?
Also, next month is the 'Hell in a Cell' PPV. I suspect that Cena and Rollins will end their feud there.
If Rollins retains, will he be pulling double duty at 'Hell in a Cell'? Would it truly make sense for Sting/Rollins to headline that event as opposed to Cena/Rollins?

I'm actually of the belief Cena should win the title back only so he can drop it cleanly to Sami Zayn later on. Rollins dropping to a newcomer would be counter productive.

I'm still buying Owens winning the IC title is precisely the reason you stated on the bottom... at least I hope :please:
 

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I can bet that WWE is still deliberating on the actual finish for the Cena/Rollins match as we speak.
Suppose Sting/Rollins goes first, how weak would Cena look if he couldn't beat a 'tired' Rollins cleanly?
Also, next month is the 'Hell in a Cell' PPV. I suspect that Cena and Rollins will end their feud there.
If Rollins retains, will he be pulling double duty at 'Hell in a Cell'? Would it truly make sense for Sting/Rollins to headline that event as opposed to Cena/Rollins?

I'm actually of the belief Cena should win the title back only so he can drop it cleanly to Sami Zayn later on. Rollins dropping to a newcomer would be counter productive.

Well, the theme of Night Of Champions is that all titles are on the line, so that's a big reason Seth is being forced to defend both titles at the PPV. I wouldn't expect him to start defending both championships on every PPV from now on, but I still can't see him carrying both titles for very long, since he'd still be obligated to defend both at some point and I don't see that as an act that carries on for very long.

I actually think Hell In A Cell could end up being a triple-threat between Rollins, Cena, and Sting for only the WWE Championship, regardless of who walks out with the US Title at the end of NOC, and the match concludes with Rollins pinning Sting to get his championship back. Not sure they'll go that route, since Rollins is a possible candidate for breaking Punk's 434 day title reign and dropping the title and then winning it back the next month anyway would disrupt that in a big way (as in, he's already about halfway there to matching and surpassing Punk's record), but it's an idea.

Another possible idea for Hell In A Cell is that the triple-threat match between Rollins, Cena, and Sting is actually for both championships, but it's dependent entirely on who pins which champion. Let's say this Sunday that Cena wins the US Championship and Sting wins the WWE Championship. At HIAC in the triple-threat, the stipulation is that if someone pins Cena to win the match, they become the United States Champion (and if Sting makes this pinfall, he retains the WWE Title as well, of course), or if someone pins Sting to win the match, they become the WWE Champion (and if Cena makes this pinfall, then he retains the US Title, too.) And the match concludes with Seth pinning Sting to become the WWE Champion again while Cena gets to walk away still holding the US strap and without having to take another direct pinfall loss.

Or, more predictably, they just go with Sheamus vs Sting (if Sheamus does cash in on Sting, should he win the title) for the WWE Championship and Cena vs Rollins for the United States Championship in separate matches.
 
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