US debt crisis?

[Donald Trump_]

They want to make the currency electric so they have more power. They can take out any group/individual at will. The government already has the power to kidnap any citizen and ship them to Guantanamo Bay without any due process due to the US Patriot Act. We'll likely see a World War 3 in the next 50 years. 9/11 was a conspiracy for America to enter Iraq under to get oil. The mainstream media is 100% controlled. And a year before 9/11 they started spreading propaganda against the middle east + Bush lying about Iraq having WMD's. Then once 9/11 happened all they had to do was point the finger at the "enemy" and the American citizens were ready for war. At some point the powers that be will invade Syria or Saudi Arabia for oil at which point China will wage war against America and there's the start of World War 3.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

FBI about to crash through Ambrose's window

 

[Aids Johnson]

Conspiracy theorists really make me laugh.

The conspiracy theory is not a product, one decent theory is not negated by the 10 crazy fucks portrayed after it. This is why things dont work. Ron Paul has conspiracy theories posted about him that you choose to believe (based on facts, but still deemed a theory) while Oprah Winfrey and Jay-Z Being Illuminati are not. Doesnt mean both are false.

This whole idea of Debt Crisis being negated based on the idea of the debt ceiling is inaccurate and disputable. The whole concept we can just raise the debt ceiling and will always do so without consequence forgets to mention the value of the dollar, which is behind in the world. While they prove a point based on the fact our interest by itself is thousands of dollars per person by itself for years, it doesnt negate the fact most likely there will come a day soon where we have no opportunity to fix it, or the people we are "indebted to" will cash in. Welcome to hell soon, people who spend 3$ at mcdonalds for a meal so you can get an extra 3$ worth of shit at Walmart, consumer whores.

 

[Crayo]

Didn't read most of it. Try not to obsess about this stuff though, that's dangerous.

 

[Aids Johnson]

Didn't read most of it. Try not to obsess about this stuff though, that's dangerous.

Don't obsess, since it doesnt effect your country. Ill keep it simple.

1. We borrow money from the FED for every dollar created.
2. We are nearly 20 trillion dollars in debt, which is thousands of dollars per person.
3. The majority owed is to communist China.
4. Walmart owners make up 4/10 of the richest people in America.
5. There are limited/no taxes for manufacturing your products in Mexico/overseas
6. Cornwall doesnt exist.
6b. Our president isn't sure what "change" means.
7. The media is owned by the richest people, and the only thing bigger than the killing of kids 2 weeks ago, was Tebow's possibly getting trained. 'Merica.

 

[Crayo]

6 is correct.

If you like conspiracy theories, you should subscribe to these guys.

http://www.youtube.com/user/thejuicemedia

Their raps make it entertaining, as well as containing educational facts that back up their theories. They use irony and exaggeration to enhance comedy, but most of the time it's actually an entertaining way to keep up with the worlds issues. I try not to debate conspiracy theories as you end up arguing which THEORY is more logical, which in itself is rather illogical.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66FUc61MvU[/yt]

Watch that. They have made countless others and had people like Julian Assange - the face of conspiracy - in their videos.

 

[Aids Johnson]

6 is correct.

If you like conspiracy theories, you should subscribe to these guys.

http://www.youtube.com/user/thejuicemedia

Their raps make it entertaining, as well as containing educational facts that back up their theories. They use irony and exaggeration to enhance comedy, but most of the time it's actually an entertaining way to keep up with the worlds issues. I try not to debate conspiracy theories as you end up arguing which THEORY is more logical, which in itself is rather illogical.

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o66FUc61MvU[/yt]

Watch that. They have made countless others and had people like Julian Assange - the face of conspiracy - in their videos.

Next time reply/quote to make sure i see this please. I will check into it. The issue really is that people block all the conspiracy theories together. So people who think the govt is putting crazy things in our water to make double rainbows (aka on acid) are equal to the scientists who outed Manbearpig himself, Al Gore. Conspiracy theories that come true are facts, but my issue is people see them as balls-to-the-wall crazy until proven factual. Look at the people who were CIA who were called out for what they did, or the people who are in prison for helping out what our GOVT was doing in mexico with illegal firearms trades. That shit is real.

The issue with it being too much, is you take oto much in and mix subjects. The main issue is our media wont put it, and would rather talk about Honey boo boo, and Jessica Simpson being pregnant again (because she really lost the babyfat)

 

[Aids Johnson]

Next time reply/quote to make sure i see this please. I will check into it. The issue really is that people block all the conspiracy theories together. So people who think the govt is putting crazy things in our water to make double rainbows (aka on acid) are equal to the scientists who outed Manbearpig himself, Al Gore. Conspiracy theories that come true are facts, but my issue is people see them as balls-to-the-wall crazy until proven factual. Look at the people who were CIA who were called out for what they did, or the people who are in prison for helping out what our GOVT was doing in mexico with illegal firearms trades. That sh*t is real.

The issue with it being too much, is you take oto much in and mix subjects. The main issue is our media wont put it, and would rather talk about Honey boo boo, and Jessica Simpson being pregnant again (because she really lost the babyfat)

This is about all i really contribute here, and i love being back to apart of it. If people disagree i will look anything up/admit im wrong. TNA/WWE? Yeah im cool, im a TNA mark. Lockerroom Garbage? Im the best around, nothings gonna ever keep me down.

Here? This is heaven. Where shit actually can be discussed as the horrible product it is being shoved down our throats.

 

[Crayo]

Next time reply/quote to make sure i see this please. I will check into it. The issue really is that people block all the conspiracy theories together. So people who think the govt is putting crazy things in our water to make double rainbows (aka on acid) are equal to the scientists who outed Manbearpig himself, Al Gore. Conspiracy theories that come true are facts, but my issue is people see them as balls-to-the-wall crazy until proven factual. Look at the people who were CIA who were called out for what they did, or the people who are in prison for helping out what our GOVT was doing in mexico with illegal firearms trades. That sh*t is real.

The issue with it being too much, is you take oto much in and mix subjects. The main issue is our media wont put it, and would rather talk about Honey boo boo, and Jessica Simpson being pregnant again (because she really lost the babyfat)

You're right, conspiracy theories as a subject results in most people just thinking you are paranoid due to previous instances of crazy theories becoming mainstream. Because of that reason I find debating "conspiracy theories" pointless, as it's too broad. Do I believe in corruption? Hell yeah I do, corruption is a fact. I prefer to chop up the conspiracy theories and put them into a smaller pile so I can debate that one particular topic.

Illuminati theory can be chopped up into the type of theory I tend to remove myself from, due to the fact that there is no evidence I can invest my time into at all. You can create evidence out of nothing, people seem to forget that. If the illuminati is such an underground group of individuals with world power, how come almost everyone knows who they are now? Anyway, I wish I didn't write up that paragraph as you will most likely reply to it, but I really won't engage myself in that conversation.

As a whole, society itself is damaged goods in my opinion, but I consider it a gift that I'm open minded enough to realise that and not fall into the trap of what people want you to be, but I don't obsess about it because society as a whole is something that is incredibly hard to change and manipulate - without significant power - and obsessing about something I can't change for my opinion of better seems rather depressing.

TLDR: I can discuss politics, corruption and other realistic theories, but I won't invest time in theories that are inadequate.

 

[Crayo]

Adding on from my original post, it would be hypocritical of me not to mention that I do myself get obsessed about these things. The whole ordeal with Julian Assange and America doing their very very best to obtain him - to charge him among other unfair things - is something that really really bothers me. Corruption is in front of everyone's eyes but no one seems to question it. Julian Assange, the guy who just released hundreds of thousands of classified US cables showing the world what sort of government is in charge of the most powerful country, suddenly gets accused of raping girls in Sweden and has to go to the US to face his charges?

But yeah, as you can see I emotionally invest far too much time into this.

 

[Aids Johnson]

TLDR: I can discuss politics, corruption and other realistic theories, but I won't invest time in theories that are inadequate.

Welcome to the whole point of choosing separate Theories, one of us will be wrong, and a grip wont be adequate. It's a bummer, but separates are not all equal.

 

[Aids Johnson]

Adding on from my original post, it would be hypocritical of me not to mention that I do myself get obsessed about these things. The whole ordeal with Julian Assange and America doing their very very best to obtain him - to charge him among other unfair things - is something that really really bothers me. Corruption is in front of everyone's eyes but no one seems to question it. Julian Assange, the guy who just released hundreds of thousands of classified US cables showing the world what sort of government is in charge of the most powerful country, suddenly gets accused of raping girls in Sweden and has to go to the US to face his charges?

But yeah, as you can see I emotionally invest far too much time into this.

I think you spend just enough. People with way too much understanding relaying that evidence to others in a legible and simple way makes sense to most people. It's how most of our media runs. I overdo it because i drink i smoke, im supposed to stop but i wont, and it makes my writing not as great as it should. But the world isnt against us, certain people are just against anyone, and it will effect us.

Ill be honest. The dude with that file site who had the yachts and shit this year getting taken in didnt effect me. The Pirate bay dudes? HELL YEAH, i can relate to them, and these things take a personal angle then. They are not doing right, but hosting a site to keep people able to download from one another opens other doors. It's the same reason i disagree with gun control, and so many other things. We could do EVERYTHING we can to stop a criminal, but you have to realize how many doors you shut on the people who are not bad. Gun control would be great, having a camera on every street/police office there would be great, but at the same time do you really want that shit? Do you have to be told "wear your seatbelt or face a fine?" fuck no. Shit is overbearing, and im trailing off....

Reading too much is good, id rather have a jumble of worthwhile shit in my brains than just the same crap to think of over and over. Just me.

 

[Crayo]

I think you spend just enough. People with way too much understanding relaying that evidence to others in a legible and simple way makes sense to most people. It's how most of our media runs. I overdo it because i drink i smoke, im supposed to stop but i wont, and it makes my writing not as great as it should. But the world isnt against us, certain people are just against anyone, and it will effect us.

Ill be honest. The dude with that file site who had the yachts and sh*t this year getting taken in didnt effect me. The Pirate bay dudes? HELL YEAH, i can relate to them, and these things take a personal angle then. They are not doing right, but hosting a site to keep people able to download from one another opens other doors. It's the same reason i disagree with gun control, and so many other things. We could do EVERYTHING we can to stop a criminal, but you have to realize how many doors you shut on the people who are not bad. Gun control would be great, having a camera on every street/police office there would be great, but at the same time do you really want that sh*t? Do you have to be told "wear your seatbelt or face a fine?" f*ck no. sh*t is overbearing, and im trailing off....

Reading too much is good, id rather have a jumble of worthwhile sh*t in my brains than just the same crap to think of over and over. Just me.

Gun control doesn't fall into the category of being controlled by the government in my opinion. If they want to create a law that stops innocent kids dying, I'm all for it. If they want to create a law that stops the internet being the one free network, then I am completely against that. The internet is not a place that should be controlled, it is a place where all information should be able to be accessed, discussed, downloaded and used in real life. Lethal weaponry that has the power to kill a human being dead in one second is something that should be controlled, but that topic opens doors for psychology and sociology. How? Should guns have ever been created? Is there not a system where war is something that never needs to happen? Both of those questions alone can warrant a 1000 word essay, that's why discussing stuff like this can be rather illogical. But it's fun to do so hey.

 

[Aids Johnson]

Gun control doesn't fall into the category of being controlled by the government in my opinion. If they want to create a law that stops innocent kids dying, I'm all for it. If they want to create a law that stops the internet being the one free network, then I am completely against that.

My main argument is giving them too much power creates opportunity from one "theory" to a totally separate one. I think gun control will not make things any better than when Prohibition was tried, or now with the war on drugs. In fact, their numbers suggest the entire opposite. I think a nation based on understanding issues is like comparing abstinence to the understanding of condoms in our schooling system. I also think that pornography is something that is unhealthy, but better left regulated by a system that maintains a free network over the socialization of government Internet, which is shown by a few of our members who have limited bandwith/banned sites, etc.