UFC 140: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs Frank Mir rematch booked

[Jabroni900]

The main problem with RAW

This also applies to SD aswell in some way.

The main problem,on Raw at least, is the lack of structure. You have the main eventers, and then you have everyone else. There isn't a sense of "climbing the ladder". There isn't a first or second level tier of guys. THe main guys, HBK, Cena, HHH, Edge, and Orton, There aren't any guys below them that are buidling there way up into that group. IC title is dead! It went from Jeff Hardy to Umaga. Who did nothing with it after coming off a hot feud with Cena early this year. He held it from Feb to April and never defended it. Then lost it to some "fan". This didn't work with the Rock, so why try it again. Fans will turn on the guy eventually. THe roster split is not working anymore. All 3 rosters are thin.

Cena has been getting booed out of most buildings. At first it was just the usual IWC backlash, but now it is completely justified. Cena goes over at WM 3 years in a row. This isn't the 80's with Hulk Hogan. It worked then because outside of PPVs the fans never really saw Hogan on TV. But now with the internet, 5 hours of TV each week, and nightly house shows, fans get bored with the same things. Cena has faced and beaten everyone on Raw. Whats left?

 

[the dark knight]

the main problem with raw is that there's no people's champ raw needs more humor and needs to have a new wwe champion. soon

 

[Montana]

You know there is a raw section if you want to complain or make a comment.

Its been like this for 20 years. Theres nothing new about what you said. Eventually the best midcarders advance to the HW level.

IF you wanna bitch about cena...theres a sticky thread about that too.

 

[Defiant One]

RAW needs that 2nd level of guys like SD has. Lashley went from US Title to ECW Title. Kennedy went from US Title to Mainevent and wouldve gone to WHC. RAW on the other hand Jeff Hardy went from IC title to no where to Tag team titles. Carlito went from IC title into obscurity. Its just a bad precedent that needs to be fixed

 

[Great One]

Um, there really is no problem with RAW, you don't call Carlito, Nitro, Hardy, Masters, Benjamin "guys that are climbing the ladder"... Ok... you realize Edge/Orton/Cena are probably still "climbing the ladder" since they are part of the new generation which RAW certainly has. Um, it's been the same with Cena still, I haven't heard him get 'booed out of the building' since they went to Chicago again before WM, even WM23 it wasn't that bad for Cena, but he does need to drop the title soon which has been said 300 times, doesn't make any sense to make anothe thread about it when you have the RAW general section discussion and the official Cena Bitching thread.

 

[Defiant One]

What im saying is 2nd level of guys that can be legit challengers. If Cena went up against Nitro, Carlito, Masters, or Benjamin. There wouldnt be any doubt in your mind Cena would win. Im talking a group of guys that can be legit contenders.

 

[xtremebadass]

I am pissed at the RAW main event scene. HBK and RKO could have easily taken the belt off Cena, but Randy Orton's stupidity didn't only affect himself, but also affected HBK's chances, because there was probably something big in store with all 4 of them, but they threw Khali? into the scene, who is probably the least qualified guy to main event, he can't even leg drop right

 

[Ben]

This is the rematch!
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira's rebirth as an elite mixed martial artist has led him to a long awaited rematch against Frank Mir, which will take place at UFC 140 on Dec. 10 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
The promotion brought word of the pending contest a short time ago, saying:

"Both men are known as two of the premiere submission specialists in the division but have shown dangerous striking skills as well," said UFC president Dana White.
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The two first met back in Dec. 2008 at UFC 92, where Mir became the first man in history to finish Nogueira and, consequently, the first to do so by way of knockout.

Should be a solid match with both guys having something to prove. Think Nog is hoping for one last run, but I think the win over Schaub had more to do with him being overated, big step up in competition taking on Mir.

 

[LLCoolJoel]

I think Nog will turn up big time for this fight. He will come with a massive point to prove.

I'm still saying Frank Mir will take this fight but it will definitely be more competitive than the first one.

 

[No More Sorrow]

Should be a good fight, i've got Nogueira in this one just think he's an all around better competitor than Frank Mir.

 

[No More Sorrow]

Tito Ortiz will meet Antonio Rogerio Nogueira in the Octagon for UFC 140. The fight was originally supposed to happen back in March, but verbal agreements are in place now and the fight will happen on December 10 at Air Canada Centre in Toronto.

Not sure if Mir got injuried or if they thought Tito and Nogueria would just be a better fight. I couldn't find a reason for the change only found this.