Trimming PPV Fat

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THE Renegade Diesel

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^ you sound like a WWE mark.

I say we go back to brand pay per views, and the main four being the joint pay per views. Especially now that there are only two brands. Last time I checked, that was the last time the WWE was sucessful.
 

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Here's a solution, let's go back to the early '90's format:
January- Royal Rumble
April - Wrestlemania
June - KOTR
August - Summer Slam
Novmeber - Survivor Series

That's not a solution. WWE uses up to much money for their shows, and shit and a large portion of that money is from pay per views. They'd lose a lot of money, and with the streams most people could find now, they are losing buyrates. So it'd be the same amount of fans imo.
 

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Are they all PPV's now? Cause there is normally a few that are not SBO?

Sky and WWE made a new deal back in december. I read in FSM that nearly all ppvs will now have to be paid for besides the odd one or two
 

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^^^Night of Champions should be a free tv show. It's a good idea but it never seems strong enough to get me to plunk down 40 bucks.

It definitely should be a free PPV quality show, like WCW used to do with Clash of the Champions. I think there are enough sponsors to make it happen. I grew up in the NY area watching WWF shows from MSG televised on the MSG network, the last time they did one of those was Jan or Feb 1997. The televised MSG shows were great because they usually put on PPV quality matches on them because of it being their home arena, such as Ultimate Warrior vs Undertaker in a Bodybag match (Taker won).

^^^You're very much correct. The last time I recall a long build up for a feud was Sting and Hogan from late 1996- late 1997. Fans were eating it up!

Hell yes. There was a constant demand from fans to have them actually wrestle a match. I always remember the Nitros ending with Sting beating down nWo members and then staring at Hogan & pointing the bat at him. I guarantee they sold a ton of PPVs for Starrcade 1997 because the buildup was awesome. Its too bad the match didn't turn out that good.
 
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^^^As soon as I can I'll rep you for that!! I watched MSG in high school and I know EXACTLY what you're talking about.

Clash of the Champions was the fuckin shit!! Truth- I grew up poor and that stuff used to make my day. Bischoff had a great idea to run ppv's every month to fight WWF. That's over now. With the economy sucking and the State of NC raising my health coverage, I need all the free wrestling I can get!!
 

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12-13 PPV's was still a good idea when the shows had brand specific PPV's. That allowed each brands feuds to have enough build considering one show had every other month to hold a PPV. Now that both brands share each PPV it are short and get old quite fast.
 
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^^^Right on! Brand only ppvs were great! They also made the big ones like mania and Summerslam feel more valuable and special. Both "promotions" joined together and produced something that felt epic in scope.
 

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Truth- I grew up poor and that stuff used to make my day. With the economy sucking and the State of NC raising my health coverage, I need all the free wrestling I can get!!
That's why you're real american made. I am too I hate to admit.
 
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^^^You're certainly allowed to have your own point of view. I'm still glad I'm not a Haitian right now. I don't mean to offend but I'm better off being working class here than in a country that doesn't have infrastructure.

PS That custom title is a combo of Hogan's WWF and WCW theme songs.
 

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^^^As soon as I can I'll rep you for that!! I watched MSG in high school and I know EXACTLY what you're talking about.

Clash of the Champions was the fuckin shit!! Truth- I grew up poor and that stuff used to make my day. Bischoff had a great idea to run ppv's every month to fight WWF. That's over now. With the economy sucking and the State of NC raising my health coverage, I need all the free wrestling I can get!!


I grew up poor too, but one of the best things my family got was a hot box in the mid 80's. That saved a lot of money, especially since pretty much all of my extended family had one, as they said in Brooklyn at the time "it fell off the back of a truck". I asked my uncle about where he got my cousins' a Nintendo when they first came out & that was his response. As a kid I didn't get to watch a lot of NWA, it was regarded as fat hillbillies rolling around in a ring in the NY area, which was a slur probably started by Vince.

With file trading & video sites its just more convenient to watch them a day later if you hear a match was good, rather than watch an entire show that wasn't that good to view one or two standout matches. The cost of PPVs keeps inflating, while the cost of living keeps rising, I'm sure its making some people have to choose between their entertainment or a grocery trip. Its a shame that a lot of bars don't carry wrestling PPVs anymore, it was a good alternative to buying a PPV yourself. During the Attitude era they did good business & I remember some bars even advertising that they were showing the WWF PPV. WWE really should lower their PPV costs, add more sponsors to split some of the cost. Their prices are impervious to economic trouble & just keep on going up, while show quality keeps going down. I was thinking of ordering Wrestlemania, but after the bloodless Hell in a Cell matches I changed my opinion. I think I made the right call, there is no heat at all with this show & probably the worst PPV build I've ever seen.
 
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I agree with what your saying, I think if WWE went back to doing 4 major PPV' s(Summerslam, Suvior Series, Royle Rumble and Wrestlemania) and made the others on free TV, maybe like how In Your House was. It could possible draw more people into wrestling. Its the same reason TNA give you Kurt Angle vs AJ or Hardy vs AJ. The big matches that if people saw they would be like, "wow i want to watch that" thats just my opinion though.
 

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^^^Night of Champions should be a free tv show. It's a good idea but it never seems strong enough to get me to plunk down 40 bucks.
I didn't even think about that man, I like that idea for Night of Champions or King of the Ring, just like WCW used to have with Clash of the Champions I believe.
 
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^^^That's exactly what Clash of the Champions was. They would have it on weeknights for about 4 hours and they were ppv quality. More ppvs=more money but I've known any wrestling fan that purchase a year's worth of ppvs.
 

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^^^That's exactly what Clash of the Champions was. They would have it on weeknights for about 4 hours and they were ppv quality. More ppvs=more money but I've known any wrestling fan that purchase a year's worth of ppvs.
You gotta have some Cash to get a whole year's ppv's and most of them aren't even worth getting in both wwe and tna. I would try to put Night of Champions on NBC if I could but if not USA of course would be the ideal network.
 

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Why don't you guys stream it if it costs too much? I've had good and bad experiences with streams. I've had perfect HD ones and terrible, lagging ones. Better than paying for WWE PPVs that are mostly disappointments.


The months where they had two PPVs were the worst. They don't even allow any time for a good feud. It moves so fast just so they have an excuse to fight at the next PPV. It's rushed, it's sloppy, you don't really get into it and it sometimes seems like they are just fighting for no reason.

It would be more exciting if they just kept the big PPVs (WM, Royal Rumble, etc.) so they could build better feuds for the PPVs and make PPVs more worth watching.