Tommy Dreamer Suspended from Impact Wrestling

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We will see if this works


People always say to apologize for your mistakes.

If they’re being legit, it should. He wasn’t Flair. He didn’t actually do the worst thing on episode.

I’d like to think an apology for a bad opinion suffices.

Also, sensitivity training. Works for Tony.
 
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Yeah, like they are opinions, and then there’s putting your foot in your mouth. Man tried to pass off sexual assault as some sort of joke or gag. :pogba Like, that’s pretty fucked up.
 

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Yeah, like they are opinions, and then there’s putting your foot in your mouth. Man tried to pass off sexual assault as some sort of joke or gag. :pogba Like, that’s pretty fucked up.

It was very fucked up. As always, you can say what you want, but freedom of speech/thought does not protect you from society judging you, or social/professional consequences.

But I hope he learns.
 
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Yeah, like they are opinions, and then there’s putting your foot in your mouth. Man tried to pass off sexual assault as some sort of joke or gag. :pogba Like, that’s pretty fucked up.

The way he said it, made me think he only meant the helicopter thing, and just didn’t believe her story about the actual dick touching part. I’d like to hope.
 

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The way he said it, made me think he only meant the helicopter thing, and just didn’t believe her story about the actual dick touching part. I’d like to hope.
I would hope that’s it, cause like I don’t know. It’s been plenty of people talk about it over the years and Tommy seems to be the only to take a side of it “wasn’t that bad.” Cause other wise. Yikes. But yeah I do agree on not firing him. Let him learn his lesson and hopefully he is smarter in the future.
 

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I would hope that’s it, cause like I don’t know. It’s been plenty of people talk about it over the years and Tommy seems to be the only to take a side of it “wasn’t that bad.” Cause other wise. Yikes. But yeah I do agree on not firing him. Let him learn his lesson and hopefully he is smarter in the future.

When he says he would never force himself on anyone sexually is what makes me think he doesn’t agree with that version. He’s thinking of all the times he was with Flair and saw him to do the helicopter thing and it never escalated before, or at least I’d again hope not, and that’s what Dreamer thinks happened.

But yeah, I’d send him to sensitivity training and hope to see him be wiser with his words from now on.
 
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When he says he would never force himself on anyone sexually is what makes me think he doesn’t agree with that version. He’s thinking of all the times he was with Flair and saw him to do the helicopter thing and it never escalated before, or at least I’d again hope not, and that’s what Dreamer thinks happened.

But yeah, I’d send him to sensitivity training and hope to see him be wiser with his words from now on.
Do we know if Flair is a hero of Dreamer? Sometimes you’re also a bit blind to your hero’s behavior, so it could also be him just wanting to believe someone he looks up to wouldn’t ever do anything like that.
 
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Do we know if Flair is a hero of Dreamer? Sometimes you’re also a bit blind to your hero’s behavior, so it could also be him just wanting to believe someone he looks up to wouldn’t ever do anything like that.
I think so. It sounds that way to me.
 
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The thing for me is, that it's always suspicious when someone plays stories like these down in any kind of way.

I mean... these stories of sexual assault, misconduct and all that getting told more often AND they get more and more attention not just since yesterday. So every single time someone hasn't smarten up and try to down play it in one way or another, there is this very faint aftertaste of that person just being bitter about getting shown to their own face, that this behaviour was bad.

It's good that he apologized and it looks like a genuine one, but yea... these things can't and shouldn't just be shoved under the rug anymore.
 
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I really hope Tommy isn't fired at the end of this suspension. If Flair got cancelled and doesn't go to AEW, fine, but Dreamer was also only talking.

And I get people don't want to hear certain opinion and that's whatever, but like send him to sensitivity training like Caster and Sammy imo.

He clearly needs it to say these things on film in 2021 when he knows speaking out was a thing and everything. Come on, man.
I agree with this
 

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Good to see him not doubling down. If he can use this as a genuine opportunity to learn then I think that's great. I agree some sensitivity training would be a good idea too. I don't think the guy should get a worst punishment than flair however
 
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But ya if he can learn and the talent are cool with him coming back after some time off, I'm ok with that. I don't want to see flair on my tv ever the fuck again though. What hogan did was one thing but this is much much worse
 

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Who would've thought the guy who was paid by the boys to eat gross shit and played "Tommy ball" which is where wrestlers would throw things at his balls would think behaviour like Flair's was "OK'.

I mean i's just shocking isn't it?
 

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Do we know if Flair is a hero of Dreamer?
He is along with Dusty and Terry. As well, Tommy is from the school of "you respect your elders" and all, since if you disrespect them then they can cost you your job and all. Though that isn't true because Sami pretty much called Ric a mark and a dumbass.
 
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Good call by Impact. People cry about cancel culture but if I run a business and someone says something that's going to f*** with my $$$ then sayonara.

No one wrestler carries a company. WWE would live on without Roman Reigns. AEW would carry on without Kenny Omega. and there won't be any Impact on their numbers from Tommy Dreamer getting the boot.

People don't get 'cancelled' for no reason. If you say the wrong thing, if you defend inexcusable behavior, if you condone illegal activities...if you do or say something you shouldn't then don't be surprised if there's a public backlash.
Sounds like you like people being canceled.

When I read the story, I was thinking its just his story. It's not like he was involved. If he didn't see what THEY accused Flair of, then I don't know what's "cancel-able" about that comment. Shouldn't the ire be at... FLAIR?

I ...mean... if this is well known, in my opinion is this is nothingburger. The anger is directed at the wrong person. I get he shouldn't be making comments like that, but. He had nothing to do with the accusations.

I also think that it VERY easy for a woman to accuse a celebrity, and make bank from it. That's where I'm at with this subject. Flair's just an easy target, and needs to clean up.

I guess that's how he earned that "dirtiest player" gimmick. Who thought of that gimmick anyway? So stupid. It doesn't help Flair's reputation.

Also, Tommy shouldn't have to apologize. It only enabled more of the same down the road when he does the same thing again.

Never. Bend. Your. Knees to cancel culture. End of story. I hope he is sincerely sorry, but that tweet puts a target on HIS back on Social Media.
 
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