TNA Vs WWE (Championship belts)

[The Rated R CMStar]

Tag belts have meant virtually fuck all for the last 4-5 years

Let's not take things out of proportion. Corrected for accuracy.

 

[Quintastic One]

(*What's more prestigeous for a rock band; playing an 80,000 seater stadium or knocking about on the fringes of the mainstream playing half-empty small clubs that wish they could appeal to more punters and possibly bigger stars?)

That's subjective, as underground rock bands who could be amazingly popular and yet refuse to go main stream. So they may value being in the smaller more personable crowds rather than in front of 80,000 fans that you only interact with maybe 2,000 of them.


But that pretty much just proves your point. To fans of TNA, and to those who work in that company, of course they are going to view their titles as more prestigious, because thats the kind of action and storylines they enjoy.

In all aspects of business and history you really can't compare any set of titles with the WWE realistically. I was simply trying to compare modern day prestige.

And I said suck it smarks because its become the cool thing to hate TNA on the internet, which is primarily a smark community.

 

[Airfixx]

That's subjective, as underground rock bands who could be amazingly popular and yet refuse to go main stream. So they may value being in the smaller more personable crowds rather than in front of 80,000 fans that you only interact with maybe 2,000 of them.

Yeah, but what you're saying would be the equivalent of Current TNA champ Angle saying the TNA world title is more prestigeous that the WWE... The kind of staunch ethics you alude to are EXTREMELY rare - Most of it's hot air from peeps who are striving to make it 'big' and hope talking underground jive is indeed their road credibility and, in turn, success in terms of audience and sales. The only ones you can truly take seriously are those that actually had the chance to sell out and chose not too(*). (It's all too convenient and cozy to just 'lurk' in your underground 'lair' claiming to be against the mainstream whilst waiting for your big break). Whilst, not necessarily being so artisticaly credible, it's certainly not easy appealing to and retaining a huge mainstream audience.

(*Brief example: 100% independently run and distributed, Detroit record label, Underground Resistance were hunted down and offered a multimillion dollar distribution deal via Sony Japan in the early 90's. They told them where to go because they wanted to retain 100% control of all aspects of their musical output. Nearly 20 years later, they've yet to receive a dollar of funding from an external source.)

Back on topic (phew!)...

Due to the kayfaybe nature of wrestling it's the AUDIENCES perception which is of ultimate importance when measuring the prestige of a title. It's only as prestigeous as it's made to look and bottom line is that a title which is defended regularly in front of crowds of 20k+ is always gonna look more prestigeous than one with the size of audience that TNA attract.

In all aspects of business and history you really can't compare any set of titles with the WWE realistically.

And why not? ....You CAN but it's just a no-contest from the start.

I was simply trying to compare modern day prestige.

I know.... I still stand by my comments that there is no comparison between the two even if you judge purely by 2002 - 2009.

Have TNA had a champ that has drawn for them yet (let alone carried the company)?

That, my good man, (and regretably, these days, merchandise sales) is how the business side of things ultimately judges prestige for a champ & his belt regardless of the era.

And I said suck it smarks because its become the cool thing to hate TNA on the internet, which is primarily a smark community.

Likewise, I know. No disrespect whatsoever, but whether you like it or not, your considering a 'behind the scenes' perception of the titles is FAR more 'smart'/smark (you choose) than you seem to realise.


You think a ten year old Jeff Hardy fan considers the things you are when perceiving the strap that his hero holds?

 

[noumenon]

WWE belts are more prestigious...no need to even argue that.
However which belts look cooler? TNA's hands down. I've been saying for years that WWE's titles need a major overhaul. My favorite belt is the World Heavyweight Championship (which has become noticably smaller since making a permanent home over on Smackdown..hmmm)
And the reason those WWE belts look like toys...is because they are. Those are the replicas..lol.

 

[Great One]

World Heavyweight Championship will always be the best, imo, it's classic. WWE title is the biggest piece of shit I've ever laid eyes on, I seriously cringe and cry inside each time I see it. It looks FUCKING Blue, especially on Orton. Don't even know why they would make it look like that, tbh. Are there people >14-15 years old who actually like this belt? Please, tell me.

TNA title is pretty sweet, lol at people pointing out the couch it's on... seriously, fuck off.

Oh, I almost forgot the Undisputed title was probably by far the overall best and coolest looking title, maybe a little big though.

 

[Airfixx]

^^^^LOL

G1 has the same sofa, innit!!! ;o]

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

If you really think TNA has anymore prestige in any of it's title belts compared to WWE's your dead wrong. There is sooo much lineage in all of the E's titles sans the Divas, that it doesn't matter what the belts have meant the last ten years because they still mean more than any belts anywhere in North America.

TNA is a garbage company, like it or not, I've been bashing them for over a year and a half and don't do it because it's "cool", I do it because that's how I feel everytime I watch it. I'm watching a group of hasbeens and wash-ups coupled with never-weres doing a poor man's version of dying WCW with terrible WWE re-hashes thrown in. The young, talented guys are given no reason to be cared about by the audience because the writters don't care. It's a garbage promotion. The one thing that differentiated them from the E, the X divison, has been shot to shit and dilluted with guys who aren't near as good as the guys who pioneered it.

The only time TNA's belts had any merit whatsoever was when they were the NWA straps and the lineage that went with those. Now they are TNA titles with all two years of lineage. Big fucking deal. They don't mean shit. Belts are just a prop until they have the history and lineage that makes them worthwhile. TNA isn't even the second biggest promotion in the continent, AAA and CMLL are both larger, have more shows and more exposure. Their belts have a legit case as being more prestigious than TNA's too. Mistico and Wagner Jr. are bigger draws than any of TNA's draws too. Look at the Lucha ratings compared to TNA's.

So if you think TNA has an upperhand on ANY WWE title beyond aesthetics than you are either A: A hard headed TNA biased fanboy who hates the fact that everyone is rightfully bashing their garbage product of choice or B: mildly Blue.

I'm not being a smark, or being "cool" bashing the shit out of TNA, I'm just calling it like I see it. I think rappers call it; "being real". I can start with how they've missed the boat oh so many times (Tomko, Joe's first title reign, Hernandez and the huge latino viewership that goes with it, and now Kong vs males), how they continually take ten steps backwards after they take one forward, the terrible booking that is responsible for all the above, the fact that they are in the same "arena"every week with tourists and not wrestling fans, the terrible announcing of Don West...wait...err they fixed that...but you see what I'm getting at. People aren't bashing it JUST to bash it, they are voicing their disgust in what is the most awful product on T.V right now. That's how I feel at least. Don't let blind bias misconstrue what's going on.

 

[Kaedon]

None of them really have much value because both companies have too f*cking many to begin with.