Tittle Changes... A butt load

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Kizza

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The way it was back then was much more exciting and unpredictable though, these days you will have an Orton/Cena match or something and know that the title will most likely change hands if not at that PPV then the one after. Attitude Era had much more people in the equations at times too, todays are usually the same over. Todays are boring.

Did you notice that the first 5 title changed were between Rock and Mankind and over a period of 3 months? And the main guys are Taker/Rock/HHH/Stone Cold/Mankind? Not much different back then then it is now. It's just more exciting cos it was more "cutting edge" back then, there's hardly a difference now.
 

the dark knight

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how often do you see me talking about pre-2001 wrestling like im kind of a wrestling promoter who knows all?

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read his post again it clearly implies he was there and saw it all live
 

Montana

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The main event was almost always Austin, Rock, Foley and HHH.

The only difference now is that you have two world titles instead of one.

Right, but thats twice as many title reigns, and i'm sure Orton/Taker wont be champs in Jan. Back then the ratings were double, PPV doubled, sales doubled, attendences doubled. Not exactly actual figures, but you get my point. The belts still meant something 10 years ago. Now when you have 2 belts, half the talent you had, it just doesn't mean as much. Plus you had Rock/Mankind fued where the belt went back and forth.
 

Wordlife

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^exactly... back then those reigns meant something, the wrestlers had passion, the matches themselves lasted so long and the crowd was so into it!

And plus back then there were no spoilers to ruin it anyways, or at least no one really knew about it, we were all nieve back then anyways when it came to wrestling
 

Montana

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Back then for spoilers was wrestling magazines (monthly, weekly) and in Detroit they had a weekly wrestling article with ratings, and backstage internet like stuff in the newspaper. Kinda crazy huh.
 

Kizza

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how often do you see me talking about pre-2001 wrestling like im kind of a wrestling promoter who knows all?

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read his post again it clearly implies he was there and saw it all live

No, I kinda got that from the list that was posted...

I can't mention stuff that I saw? It was obviously a big change in wrestling then.
 

Great One

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Kizza coulda just watched a ton of vids, pretty much the equivalent of.
 

Chuck Taylor's Grenade

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Yeah but back then they actually knew how to build a feud without a title being involved. Just look at Kane vs. Undertaker, the Terri Invitational Series, Triple H vs. Kurt Angle just to name a few.
 

Beer Money Army

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Bret Hart Vs Steve Austin is probably one of the best feuds that didn't involve World Championship or any other championships.
 
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The way it was back then was much more exciting and unpredictable though, these days you will have an Orton/Cena match or something and know that the title will most likely change hands if not at that PPV then the one after. Attitude Era had much more people in the equations at times too, todays are usually the same over. Todays are boring.
All you said here was that it was more unpredictable back in the attitude era and today is boring. Please elaborate on how it was more unpredictable back then.

^exactly... back then those reigns meant something,
How did all of those short title reigns back then mean anymore than the short title reigns we see today?

the wrestlers had passion,
Wrestler's today don't have passion? Give me a break. Two guys that come to mind are John Cena and Triple H. Those two guys have as much passion as anyone from the attitude era if not more.

the matches themselves lasted so long and the crowd was so into it!
The title matches today last just as long as they did back then, unless it involves a guy like the Undertaker that currently can't wrestle probably more than 10 minutes. And at times the crowds aren't into everything that happens, but they are almost always hot for the title matches.

And plus back then there were no spoilers to ruin it anyways, or at least no one really knew about it, we were all nieve back then anyways when it came to wrestling
LOL So wrestling was better back then because you didn't have spoilers? That means that the WWE forces you to go onto the forums and news sites to find out results and plans for storylines then, right?

Yeah but back then they actually knew how to build a feud without a title being involved. Just look at Kane vs. Undertaker,
That was one hell of a feud. If it wasn't for the lacklustre matches it could go down as one of the greatest feuds ever.

the Terri Invitational Series,
This is just like the TLC stuff that did involve the belts. The feuds itself were nothing great. They just delivered a lot of really good matches.

Triple H vs. Kurt Angle just to name a few.
This feud did involve the belt as it started on the build up to Summerslam 2000 when the Rock defended the title against Triple H and Kurt Angle.

I’m not denying that they had some good feuds back then that didn't involve the belt. I just think it's completely unfair to say that today there aren't good feuds without the belt. Last year HBK/Jericho had a damn good feud that didn't involve the belt until the very end of their feud. Unless you are a blind Cena hater I'd say that the Cena/JBL feud from last year was a pretty solid feud without the belt. More recently you had DX/Legacy that turned into a good feud and did a nice job of making the young guys look good.

Bret Hart Vs Steve Austin is probably one of the best feuds that didn't involve World Championship or any other championships.
Agreed.

^^how old were you back then, 8? lulz
This might be the best point I seen in the thread. I constantly see people praising the Attitude era and bashing today's product. Then I look at the age in your profile and it's usually between the ages of 16-24. So back then you were anywhere between the age of 6-14. Number 1 I question if you actually watched wrestling back then or just seen videos. Number 2 and this is something I talked about in another thread recently is that when you are that age wrestling was far newer to you and you also have a much different perspective at the age of 10 than you do at 20. Of course things seem more unpredictable and it usually takes less to entertain you. So when you look back you think that the product was so much more amazing because you don’t get the same feeling today as you did back then.

As far as there being so many title changes in a short time, I have to say I personally hate it. It definitely takes away from the belt and makes it seem far less important. I'm hoping that we see a good 6-8 month title reign from someone soon.
 

Kizza

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I never said whether it was good or bad. I personally believe that all title reign should be long as a reward to an individual who earned their position as the best. Sorry if I came across as a "know it all", I was just saying that I saw from the list of champions in a previous post.
 

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the belts are more of a prop than anything else. it's more now where the big stars win the belt instead of someone winning the WWE or WHC to become a main event star. that's fine, because the main event scene is loaded on both Raw and SD. the ECW belt looks like the most consistent out of the 3.