The Russo-Ukrainian War Thread (FKA Political Thread)

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yep, was my first thought too. Incredibly short sighted just to say they "won"

Yeah, I get why they did it, but they’re not thinking logically about this at all. They got smoked at the last two elections because Trump politics and now they want to fire up their opposition even more with their top priority?

Foolish to say the least.
 

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Their main election strategy seems to be social issues like this and the attack on trans people across the country in various states, bold move
 

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I respect and understand your opinion Smark, Im too heated to debate on this rationally so I will refrain from commenting further for the time being.
 

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Biden's approval rating might even end up rising out of this lol it was mostly Trump levels for months now
 

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I wouldn't even be surprised if this was a catalyst to fairly major Supreme Court changes overall

They’re gonna try for sure. I don’t think they should

I don’t actually disagree with scotus here. They’re not supposed to pass laws from the bench. Hopefully after this they just do the job they were intended to do.

My only issue is even if the original opinion was a reach, it’s been 50 years. Leave it alone, but I think the long-standing ramifications might be better off if we can make legitimate laws protecting abortion access that can’t be overturned later like this one that was on that verge.

My only personal opinion is if we can make abortion legal permanently, just let states decide on term limits.

I actually thought that 15-week one recently was super reasonable and what I’d personally make it, myself.
 

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Biden's approval rating might even end up rising out of this lol it was mostly Trump levels for months now

If he can act quickly on this, his approval might skyrocket.
 

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Also bit outside the main issue but, has a Supreme Court opinion ever leaked like this as a draft? Apparently what leaked is a draft from February
 

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Also bit outside the main issue but, has a Supreme Court opinion ever leaked like this as a draft? Apparently what leaked is a draft from February

From what I gather never before an opinion is made public. Only afterwards to see what was said prior to the final draft and whatnot so someone definitely leaked this with the intention of swaying a vote before it’s finalized.
 

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If they can change this opinion before it’s made final and public law, just change it to remove the viability clause.

Both sides imo win and lose on that. Keep abortion legal and safe, but give states more leeway on term limits.

Maybe just pass legislation that it has to be at least 10, possibly 12 weeks minimum. So women have time.
 

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I believe in a women’s right to choose as long as the baby isn’t fully developed. Idk what the exact weeks are. I think that aborting a fully formed baby is kind of fucked up and honestly you could just give a baby up for adoption. So while I believe in abortion rights there is a huge gray area for me and I think there is a strong argument for pro-life.
 

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no there isn't , no one is getting full term abortion. thats a myth created by the right. fuck off with that shit
 

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I've also been Pro-Choice until the 24 weeks period
 
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