The Roman Empire Will Reign

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Bryan is 34. If they go that route that's awesome for a one-off again at Mania, but it's only a band-aid on the current situation. The situation I'm referring to is a lack of depth on the roster and needing a guy to take Cena's spot. They need to elevate Roman and his fellow alumni (Shield, Wyatt) to WWE Titles so they can start bringing in these NXT guys to fill out the mid-card.

Is Roman ready? Maybe not, but who the fuck is ready for the enormity of that role? Cena raised the bar far beyond what Bruno, Hulk, or Austin had to do.
 

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Bryan is 34. If they go that route that's awesome for a one-off again at Mania, but it's only a band-aid on the current situation. The situation I'm referring to is a lack of depth on the roster and needing a guy to take Cena's spot. They need to elevate Roman and his fellow alumni (Shield, Wyatt) to WWE Titles so they can start bringing in these NXT guys to fill out the mid-card.

Is Roman ready? Maybe not, but who the fuck is ready for the enormity of that role? Cena raised the bar far beyond what Bruno, Hulk, or Austin had to do.

Well first, 34 is not too old to be pushed as the main guy in a wrestling company. Before the decade of Cena, they didn't rely on just one guy for such a long period of time. Regardless, 34 is not that old. Shawn Michaels turned 34 in 2000 and he was one of the consistent performers up until his retirement.

Besides I don't think most people want one guy to carry the company for such a long period of time. That's why WWE is so stagnant because they keep falling back on Cena. What WWE NEEDS is an ensemble cast like they had in the Attitude Era. Sure Rock and Austin were the top guys, but they weren't alone.

How has Cena raised any bar higher? He's a wretched talker who basically comes out and recaps everything that has happened and explains the current situation as if he's a narrator. This is much like this:

"So for ten years we have had two world championships, one on Raw and one on Smackdown! There were two, count em, two champions at any given time. And now- NOW- we have a match in which both champions will fight in a match to make those two titles into one!"

Yeah, thanks Fuckwad, we didn't know that from watching the show. He's an average wrestler who can have phenomenal matches only occasionally depending upon the opponent. One thing John Cena has not done is raise the bar.

I agree with what you've said about elevating new guys but the way to do that is not by just giving them all a world title reign. But WWE has to start giving them consistent storylines and not letting the old champs like Cena keep putting them down. Cena is the thing that has been keeping these other guys from reaching the top. Vince McMahon can claim that the roster is not stepping up but what good does it do when you're just going to be fed to Cena anyway?

It's a bad idea in this day and age to rest the company on one man's shoulders. They need a solid core of guys that can always be in competition for the belt, and both Roman Reigns AND Daniel Bryan deserve to be in that group. So does Rollins, Ambrose and Bray Wyatt.

I doubt anyone wants to see another 10 years with one guy at the top, regardless of who it is. That is why WWE is so stale right now. I have no problem with Roman Reigns winning the championship at all. I do have a problem with the idea of putting the company on his shoulders and his shoulders alone.

You're right thay they need a solid top tier established but they don't need to solidify it. When the NXT wrestlers fill out the mid and under card, they need to be given the opportunities that many wrestlers have not been given in the past 10 years due to the omnipresence of John Cena.
 

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What I'm referring to in regards to handling the role of being the top guy in WWE isn't just cutting promos and having Dave Meltzer give you ****1/4. Media, charity, being a guy that can represent the company during any public function. First to arrive, last to leave. Setting the example for everyone else in the company by being the hardest working guy there. That's what Cena does. Austin had some media etc, Hogan a little bit, and Bruno basically just wrestled. You can't get away with just being a good wrestler and expect to be the top guy. I shouldn't have to explain this I don't think, but just to clarify what I'm talking about.

Is Roman up for that? We'll certainly see very soon. I know he's a family man and of course he wants to push this thing to the limit as far as he can to provide for that family.

And on Bryan's age... yeah sure HBK came back but he'd already established himself as one of the greatest living wrestlers before he was 30. Bryan got over like 18 months ago. His look really is prohibitive too. Maybe if he trimmed back the Duck Dynasty shit a bit...
 

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All companies have had their best runs when they have had multiple guys on that top level. The WWE in the late 90's with Austin, Rock, Foley, HHH and the Undertaker. WCW with the NWO. the NWA with flair, Steamboat & Dusty. All Japan in the 80's and 90's with the four pillars (Kawada, Taue, Misawa & Kobashi), New Japan right now with the "new new three musketeers" in Okada, Tanahashi and Nakamura.

Putting all the money on one horse is bad because it is a risk. If that horse goes out, what do you do then?
 

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Yeah I think we're all on the same page in regards to having a bunch of go-to guys on top. It's not always possible. 98-01 was kind of a golden age for that. That's why I'm saying we need to see Roman, Rollins, Dean, and Wyatt up there. I would of course prefer to see Dolph in the mix.
 

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Reins is just not that good. Cena was at least crazy over and somehow innovative back in 2002-05, he also had some darn good matches with Undertaker, Angle and JBL that jusified his push to a degree. He had a five star cult classic with fucking UMAGA back in 2007. Despite being roided and dressing like a 12 year old cracka who thinks he's a rapper, he has the look that fits the top dog.

Reins, on the other hand, has that hair and that tattoo, his Shield attire is godawful and he only wears it because he's a roided bonehead with lots and lots of gyno (man tits), hence why we never see his muscles. Correct me if I'm wrong here. The Rock had the same problem in 1999, hence the tracksuit, but he went to plastic surgery to remove it. Reins also had zero watchable singles matches so far. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

He also has a jerkoff face and can't talk.
 
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Reins is just not that good. Cena was at least crazy over and somehow innovative back in 2002-05, he also had some darn good matches with Undertaker, Angle and JBL that jusified his push to a degree. He had a five star cult classic with fucking UMAGA back in 2007. Despite being roided and dressing like a 12 year old cracka who thinks he's a rapper, he has the look that fits the top dog.

Reins, on the other hand, has that hair and that tattoo, his Shield attire is godawful and he only wears it because he's a roided bonehead with lots and lots of gyno (man tits), hence why we never see his muscles. Correct me if I'm wrong here. The Rock had the same problem in 1999, hence the tracksuit, but he went to plastic surgery to remove it. Reins also had zero watchable singles matches so far. Again, correct me if I'm wrong.

He also has a jerkoff face and can't talk.

lol this shit cracked me up. I'll properly reply when I get to lunch
 

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Roman Reigns is probably the coolest name that the WWE has coined in the last ten years, easy.

Edit: I figured saying ten years would make it seem like a long time, but 2005 doesn't seem that long ago. Damn.
I was thinking it was probably the coolest name they've ever coined, honestly. It is fucking perfect.
 
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I was thinking it was probably the coolest name they've ever coined, honestly. It is fucking perfect.

When the dude drops his 10th world title to Sami Zayn at Mania 40 - Cole will be all like "THE ROMAN EMPIRE HAS CRUMBLED!"
 

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When the dude drops his 10th world title to Sami Zayn at Mania 40 - Cole will be all like "THE ROMAN EMPIRE HAS CRUMBLED!"
Sami Zayn lol. Perfect example of how most of WWE name attempts turn out.