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Agreed. I don't agree with you at all, but I don't think you're a bad person. I think everyone needs to realize that people with different opinions can still be good people.
Trust me, I have dealt with this nonsense for over a decade, long before I joined here. I was raised to be nice to others and if someone disagrees with you, respect their beliefs.
 

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Trust me, I have dealt with this nonsense for over a decade, long before I joined here. I was raised to be nice to others and if someone disagrees with you, respect their beliefs.
Lol I have been dealing with nonsense since the 80s, watching movies and TV shows that do nothing but make fun of gay people and make us seem like freaks. I know what dealing with nonsense is so I can empathize.

But personal attacks are always uncalled for.

Again, I don't agree with your position, but I don't look down on you for it either.
 

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Just a point of order. But modern Israelis are not the same peoples as the ancient Hebrew people.

The Palestinians are also in the Bible, as the Philistines, and they were living in the land of the Levant long before the Hebrews conquered their way into dominating that land.

The Hebrews conquered and subjugated the Philistines, just as they were conquered by the Babylonians, the Persians, the Romans, and the Arabs after them.

In the ancient world, might makes right, so Judea ceased being "the land of the Jews" when they were conquered peoples.
 

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Just a point of order. But modern Israelis are not the same peoples as the ancient Hebrew people.

The Palestinians are also in the Bible, as the Philistines, and they were living in the land of the Levant long before the Hebrews conquered their way into dominating that land.

The Hebrews conquered and subjugated the Philistines, just as they were conquered by the Babylonians, the Persians, the Romans, and the Arabs after them.

In the ancient world, might makes right, so Judea ceased being "the land of the Jews" when they were conquered peoples.
I am mostly American Indian. I don't whine about white people taking over our land.

THAT IS WHAT CONQUERING NATIONS DO!

Is it right? I have no idea if it is right or wrong. But it's reality.
 
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Lol I have been dealing with nonsense since the 80s, watching movies and TV shows that do nothing but make fun of gay people and make us seem like freaks. I know what dealing with nonsense is so I can empathize.

But personal attacks are always uncalled for.

Again, I don't agree with your position, but I don't look down on you for it either.
I'm an advocate for LGBT rights. Personally I'm not I'm the community, but an ally. People using the F word just makes me want to puke. LGBT people deserve the respect like a normal person like me. Attacks on people for what they believe in is disgusting. Jesus said to love everyone. The bible has anti LGBT themes like saying a man sleeping with another man is an abomination. That was the product of the time and have no affect on my beliefs. Everyone is created equal.
 
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Supporting Zionism is supporting bigotry. I’ll attack him as a person if he’s going to support bigotry.
Personally for me, call him names and any of that if you need. For me, it's no matter what I don't think we need to be basically telling members to die by telling them to be bisected by a bus. So call him a dumbass or any other shit. Just no telling people to die.
 

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I'm an advocate for LGBT rights. Personally I'm not I'm the community, but an ally. People using the F word just makes me want to puke. LGBT people deserve the respect like a normal person like me. Attacks on people for what they believe in is disgusting. Jesus said to love everyone. The bible has anti LGBT themes like saying a man sleeping with another man is an abomination. That was the product of the time and have no affect on my beliefs. Everyone is created equal.
I was not trying to start a gay conversation, I hope you know. I was just saying I know what it feels like to be oppressed. My favorite college professor was Jewish and she was very important to me.

I STRONGLY support Jewish people and Israel. I just want the Palestinians to have a place of their own too. We all deserve a place of our own.

But THANK YOU for your support of LGBT rights. That means a lot to me, especially right now.
 

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Personally for me, call him names and any of that if you need. For me, it's no matter what I don't think we need to be basically telling members to die by telling them to be bisected by a bus. So call him a dumbass or any other shit. Just no telling people to die.
Agreed. If Mitch called him a dumbass or something I would have completely ignored it. That is what we do with each other.

It's the bus thing I think crossed a line.
 
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I was not trying to start a gay conversation, I hope you know. I was just saying I know what it feels like to be oppressed. My favorite college professor was Jewish and she was very important to me.

I STRONGLY support Jewish people and Israel. I just want the Palestinians to have a place of their own too. We all deserve a place of our own.

But THANK YOU for your support of LGBT rights. That means a lot to me, especially right now.
I was doing a nice conversation. Harass me, and you may never know what I would agree with you about. I personally know two people in the community. My nephew is transgender. Female to male. The last time I saw him, it was before his transition. If I see him in the future, I will tell him I still love him. I get pushback from my grandparents supporting him. Also I have a bisexual niece. I love her too. I still see her on occasion and she knows I love her.
 
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Personally for me, call him names and any of that if you need. For me, it's no matter what I don't think we need to be basically telling members to die by telling them to be bisected by a bus. So call him a dumbass or any other shit. Just no telling people to die.
Telling @Rosie to kill himself (sorry if I got the pronouns wrong) is what made Grievous one of the very few people who was not unbanned when Smark merged the sites.

It is wrong to treat people like that
 

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Personally for me, call him names and any of that if you need. For me, it's no matter what I don't think we need to be basically telling members to die by telling them to be bisected by a bus. So call him a dumbass or any other shit. Just no telling people to die.
lol you can call me a Butt Pirate, a fairy, light on my feet.. none of it will ever hurt me because I know you are my friend
 

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Telling @Rosie to kill himself (sorry if I got the pronouns wrong) is what made Grievous one of the very few people who was not unbanned when Smark merged the sites.

It is wrong to treat people like that
My family never tolerated death threats. It is one of the worst things to do to a person. I would call the police if someone sent a death threat. I'm a law abiding citizen, so I wouldn't do that.
 

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lol you can call me a Butt Pirate, a fairy, light on my feet.. none of it will ever hurt me because I know you are my friend
You are one funny person. You saying Butt Pirate made me laugh. I know we definitely will get along.
 
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My family never tolerated death threats. It is one of the worst things to do to a person. I would call the police if someone sent a death threat. I'm a law abiding citizen, so I wouldn't do that.
I don't believe he really means it. He is really a good guy but you know how political arguments can get.
 

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You are one funny person. You saying Butt Pirate made me laugh. I know we definitely will get along.
Hey, I think if I can be funny maybe I can make this all go away :)

Mitch isn't a bad guy. He really isn't. It's just a bad situation