The Political Thread

[Smart Marx]

The dumbest complaint I've ever heard against them as a state is that we'd have to print new flags Like oh no what a travesty would that be, shit just combine the Dakotas or something if it's that big of a deal

I don't even think we'd need to do anything. Puerto Rico's flag has a single star on it. They can fly both flags as I think they do now.

 

[Deezy]

All them territories and they can't vote in elections.

 

[Chris]

All them territories and they can't vote in elections.

But they pay in taxes, funny for a country built around "no taxation without representation"

 

[Smart Marx]

But they pay in taxes, funny for a country built around "no taxation without representation"

Which is why I've always believed in making it a state.

 

[Chris]

At least Puerto Ricans are citizens at birth, American Samoans don't even get that despite having the highest percentage of military enlistment of any state or territory.

 

[Smart Marx]

At least Puerto Ricans are citizens at birth, American Samoans don't even get that despite having the highest percentage of military enlistment of any state or territory.

I'm in favor of changing both of those facts. It would probably easier to at least start with making them U.S. Citizens, because I don't understand why they aren't already.

 

[Chris]

I'm in favor of changing both of those facts. It would probably easier to at least start with making them U.S. Citizens, because I don't understand why they aren't already.

They're considered "Nationals" and it isn't too hard for them to become citizens, I think they just have to live in the US for a short time (wanna say just a few months) and pass a citizenship test but I just don't see the point of those extra steps when other territories are considered citizens from birth. But yeah, I'm all in favor of them becoming states as long as they meet the population requirements but if they don't then territories deserve at least some voice in congress, maybe just one senator instead of two and a small number of representatives.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Redirect Notice

So that's a thing.

 

[Sakura]

I heard there is a recent request for a bill to make them the 51st state. I wholeheartedly support it.

Same here.

Honestly, I think it would be beneficial to most of the territories and everyone else to make them states.

I think it would be good from an economic standpoint, don't you?

 

[Smart Marx]

Same here.

Honestly, I think it would be beneficial to most of the territories and everyone else to make them states.

I think it would be good from an economic standpoint, don't you?

For sure. I understand there's some population concerns for smaller territories, but I feel most of them should be states.

You're either a part of the U.S. or you aren't, you know? It would definitely help the economy for sure.

 

[Sakura]

For sure. I understand there's some population concerns for smaller territories, but I feel most of them should be states.

You're either a part of the U.S. or you aren't, you know? It would definitely help the economy for sure.

I agree. I think the "territories" concept is dated, and no longer in the best interest of anyone.

 

[Chris]

I agree. I think the "territories" concept is dated, and no longer in the best interest of anyone.

Too bad Republicans are scared they'd mostly vote democrat

 

[Smart Marx]

Too bad Republicans are scared they'd mostly vote democrat

They probably would, unfortunately. But even then, most of them would get 1 or 2 electoral votes at most anyway.

 

[Chris]

They probably would, unfortunately. But even then, most of them would get 1 or 2 electoral votes at most anyway.

I think it's more the extra dem senators they're worried about tho, not a presidential election. But once again "no taxation without representation" they deserve a voice even if they don't agree with you

 

[Smart Marx]

I think it's more the extra dem senators they're worried about tho, not a presidential election. But once again "no taxation without representation" they deserve a voice even if they don't agree with you

Agreed. Puerto Rico deserves it no matter what. That's where the population of the others comes into play. I don't think terorites with really, really small populations shouldn't get Senators. Maybe Reps for the House. It's really tricky.