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the point was he was, at one point an illegal immigrant - I am not sure why you feel the need to be this pedantic and act all enlightened lol

he was an illegal immigrant. the fact he is not today because he bent the rule and is rich does not dismiss the fact he took advantage of the rules, broke them and resided in the country illegally. Which means that he is a hypocrite for supporting mass deportation since he is unwilling to give people the same advantage he himself has.

As for your last comment, I have not accused you of being "factually incorrect" , I am subtly accusing you of being a bootlicker
No, that was not your point. You stated that Elon Musk was here illegally. I have replied to that post twice. By stating he is currently an illegal immigrant you are either repeating an untruth or are just plain lying. Both the link I sourced and the link you yourself sourced state he is an American citizen. That was what I was commenting on, that you were using incorrect information to bolster your argument. And now in later posts you are trying to move the goalpost and claim the point was not that he is an illegal immigrant (which you claimed) but that he once was. All while never admitting you were wrong in your earlier claim.

If his mass deportation stance includes the removal of people who have briefly overstayed their student visas after they became void, like he did, then absolutely that is hypocrisy.

So let me see if I understand. You are not stating that what I post in incorrect but that I am a bootlicker for the position I take. But I would assume you don't see yourself as a bootlicker for doing the same thing.

curious

So, if you are not saying my posts are factually incorrect then what I must be posting is true. So, posting factually correct or true posts is bootlicking.

curiouser and curiouser

See, you calling me a bootlicker is nothing more than an ad hominem attack. By labeling me something rather than refuting what I have posted you are trying to lesson any opinion I may present. The sad thing is I have never specifically defended one side or person. I have only ever posted when I believe something has been posted that is untrue or a bastardization of the truth. Like your Musk claim. I even posted that I thought Vice Pres Harris was going to win. For you to claim that I am somehow bootlicking...

we're in a class war, going all AKTCUALLY on some pedantic difference between is and was on a rant post is playing defense for the ruling class - fuck that

Because the difference between is and was significantly changes the strength of the argument. My guess is you knew this when you made your post.


Now this is an interesting article because if actually read one should be able to see points from both sides. The election was won by 734 votes out of 5.5 million cast. 60,000 votes are being questioned. The court has held off declaring a winner until the hearing over these votes is concluded. Makes sense. 60,000 is more then 734 so it could greatly affect the results.

Now, this sounds like I am taking the conservative's side. No, I am only stating what seems to be common sense. Don't declare a winner until you are sure who the winner is. However, where I would argue against this is that the question of the validity of the votes is because small details were not filled in. Specifically, SSNs and DL#s. This to me is ridiculous. When I go to vote I go to the borough hall, tell my name and ward, they find it, compare my signature and then I vote. i have never had my ID asked for or even my registration card, which I carry in my wallet, requested. Thats how easy it should be. I understand that mail in ballets need a little more info but this is ridiculous. If the name matches, the address matches, they are registered and there is no evidence they voted twice then these votes should count. Forgetting a number that really has nothing to do with voting should not cause someone to lose their vote.

And let's be honest, 99% of the time it is Republicans that create these nonsense rules. Hopefully this gets resolved quickly and Justice Riggs is declared the winner.
 

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there was no argument to be won, the original comment was some off the cuff rant where I wanted to shit on Elon. I wasn't looking for a fucking debate. Not reading all that btw lol but hey, you know what it's on me for taking the bait. great job big brain guy!
 
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what would I even be a bootlicker to exactly? I have allegiance to no one and I'm not fucking american. the fuck are you actually even on about :heston
 
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there was no argument to be won, the original comment was some off the cuff rant where I wanted to shit on Elon. I wasn't looking for a fucking debate. Not reading all that btw lol but hey, you know what it's on me for taking the bait. great job big brain guy!

Your call.
Just can't resist the personal attacks, can you.
what would I even be a bootlicker to exactly? I have allegiance to no one and I'm not fucking american. the fuck are you actually even on about :heston
That was my point. How am I a bootlicker? And only Americans can be bootlickers?
 

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you know what actually since you're still being a pedantic dumbass

you now having us born citizens, billionaires, who are bending a knee to an illegal immigrant

funny how all the cons don't seem to care Elon is in your country illegally. rules for thee but not for us!
this is what you replied to - so I have to start by assuming YOU took some sort of offense to this statement, as a con that you needed to somehow start a debate . then you accused me of moving the goalpost. expect to read a fucking bible of bullshit (which is just a HMMM HMM how curious while actually saying fucking nothing of substance other than repeating that you were pedantically right (?) about the differerence between present and past tense? but still proving me right that as a con you dont give a fuck he broke the law but you do when mexicans do.

as i said -

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Your call.
Just can't resist the personal attacks, can you.

That was my point. How am I a bootlicker? And only Americans can be bootlickers?
nah I have no patience for right wing fauxtelectuals who spout both sides nonsense so they can justify their shitty voting habits. I come in here to rant and tell nazis to blow me as well. not interested in debates with your ilk, tbhhhhhh
 

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to the bin with thee!
 

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I've had him on ignore for a whole cus he's just a fuckin idiot.
 

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In all seriousness though, @Comrade Khan in a land battle, the US would get its dick kicked in by Panama.
 

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what would I even be a bootlicker to exactly? I have allegiance to no one and I'm not fucking american. the fuck are you actually even on about :heston
wait he actually called YOU a bootlicker? LMAOOOOOOOOOO what a fucking idiot
 

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It's a good thing I got rid of Facebook last month.
 
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wait he actually called YOU a bootlicker? LMAOOOOOOOOOO what a fucking idiot
No, I did not call him a bootlicker. I have never called anyone on here anything. I myself have had...

Grimoire Lenin tell me to fuck off, call me a sack of shit and a fucking idiot (and apparently has me on ignore).
Comrade Khan called me a bootlicker three times (his favorite insult), a right-wing troll, fauxtelectual and told me to go fuck myself.
And you yourself told me to fuck off, go fuck myself and called me a fucking idiot.

All the while never actually truly engaging in my points but rather using ad hominem attacks to try to belittle me personally rather than discuss and debate the points we disagree on.

My point about the bootlicker was that if we were technically doing the same thing then weren't we both bootlickers. He has accused me of pandering to the right while he lied about information about Musk just to prove a point he believes. How, following that logic, would we be different.

Comrade Khan made up a lie about Elon Musk. After I proved it was a lie, he doubled down on it. Then he deflected the fact that he lied, argued vocabulary tense and actually posted a link to refute me that proved he lied. All the while insulting me personally.

Call me what you want, and I may be an idiot, but I don't see how I am one here.
 

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So why identify with "the Christian Right" when right-wing Christians are in direct opposition to Jesus's words about greed, judging others, etc? Why vote for a guy who couldn't possibly be any further away from what Jesus preached?
Haven't you heard of Log Cabin Republicans? Those people are gay and vote Republican. I have several friends that are Log Cabin Republicans.