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Well yeah cause at first all people saw was the agents throwing themselves on Trump to protect him and ushering him away.

Later we found out a guy was able to climb to the roof of a building with a big ass gun and set up shop with no one stopping him.
 

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Like when people were thanking the CIA/FBI for taking down the 4th plane that was going for the capitol building durimg 9/11, then finding out they were told an attack was imminent and didn't do anything.
 
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For anyone curious about further info on the situation:

The early portrait that has emerged of the 20-year-old Pennsylvania man who authorities say tried to assassinate former Republican president Donald Trump at a campaign rally in the state Saturday before secret service agents shot him to death is a complicated and so far sparse one.

Thomas Matthew Crooks resided in Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, a predominantly white, generally affluent suburb of Pittsburgh. Public records show he shared a home with parents who were licensed behavioral care counselors. Those same records contain no mention of any criminal or traffic citations – as well as any financial problems such as foreclosures.


Incongruous actions that Crooks took late in his time as a student at Bethel Park high school offered virtually no hint at his political leanings. He was a junior at the school, and it was the first day of Joe Biden’s presidency, when Crooks donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project, a political action committee aligned with the president’s Democratic party.


Yet eight months later, early in his senior year, Crooks registered to vote as a Republican. And he had left his affiliation unchanged when he voted in the November 2022 midterm elections, which took place months after he graduated from Bethel Park high, where he was among a group of students to receive a $500 National Math and Science Initiative “star award”.

A young man who described himself as a former schoolmate of Crooks at Bethel Park high school spoke with reporters Sunday recalled how his ex-companion “was bullied almost every day” by those around him.

The man told NBC News and other outlets that Crooks’ penchant for wearing “hunting” and “military” clothes as well as eating alone at lunch drew derision from his peers, who considered him a “loner” and an “outcast”.

“You know how kids are these days – they’re going to see someone like that and they’re going to target him because they think it’s funny or whatever,” the man said to journalists.

While the man made clear he wasn’t saying any of those experiences fueled Saturday’s assassination attempt, he added: “It’s honestly kind of sad … He was bullied so much.”

Crooks reportedly had an account on Discord, an online chat app that began as a space for gamers but gained notoriety in part because the white supremacist who fatally shot 10 people at grocery in a predominantly Black neighborhood in Buffalo posted on the platform about his plans to attack the store.

Discord told the gaming news outlet Kotaku that the account that appeared to be linked to Crooks “was rarely utilized”.

“We have no evidence that it was used to plan this incident or discuss his political views,” said the company’s statement to Kotaku. In addition to pledging to cooperate with law enforcement, the statement continued: “Discord strongly condemns violence of any kind, including political violence.”

Crooks thrust himself into the center of the political world on Saturday when he went about an hour north of Bethel Park and got atop the roof of a bottle manufacturing plant in Butler county, Pennsylvania. Nearby, Trump was speaking at a supporters’ rally as he pursues a return to the White House in November.

Multiple people who were listening to the former US president’s speech outside the rally venue said they spotted Crooks as he brought an AR-style rifle to the plant rooftop and took aim in the direction of the former president. But they said officers did not immediately react to their warnings – assertions that prompted local district attorney Richard Goldlinger to tell CNN that it was urgent for investigators to figure out how Crooks “would’ve gotten to the location where he was”.

Crooks ultimately managed to fire several shots toward the stage where Trump was speaking, which was less than 500ft away (152.4 meters) away. One spectator was killed, and two others were critically wounded. Trump reported that a bullet “pierced the upper part” of his right ear, which was visibly bloodied – but he was otherwise “fine”, he said after Secret Service agents whisked him away from the scene.

Meanwhile, a spokesperson for the Secret Service said, agents returned fire at Crooks and killed him.

ABC News cited multiple law enforcement sources who told the outlet that the rifle the gunman fired on Saturday had been purchased legally by the suspect’s father, Matthew Crooks. Investigators arrived at that conclusion after the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms conducted an urgent trace on the weapon, according to the network.

Separately, the Associated Press reported that authorities had discovered bomb-making materials in Crooks’ home and car, which was parked near the site of Saturday’s Trump rally.

The Wall Street Journal added that police received multiple reports of suspicious packages near where Crooks was, prompting officials to dispatch bomb technicians.

Graphic pictures of the scene circulating on social media showed Crooks had been clad in a T-shirt branded with the name of a YouTube channel dedicated to providing content on guns and demolition.

Late Saturday, the channel’s host reposted a picture on Instagram of law enforcement officers standing over Crooks’ body – with part of the T-shirt’s wording visible – and wrote: “What the hell”.

The FBI identified Crooks as Trump’s would-be assassin late on Saturday. CNN reported contacting Matthew Crooks for comment – and he said he wanted to speak to authorities and figure out “what the hell is going on” before discussing his son.
 

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*sigh… of course he was bullied in school.

When you treat people like shit they turn out like shit. Where’s the decency
 
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It doesn’t justify what he did but when will people learn after decades of bullied kids lashing out that maybe it’s not a good idea to bully your classmates?
 
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It doesn’t justify what he did but when will people learn after decades of bullied kids lashing out that maybe it’s not a good idea to bully your classmates?
Sadly, I doubt they ever will.
 
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It's always going to be an issue, and as long as mental health services continue to not be taken seriously, these people will not get the help they should be getting, which allows these emotions to fester.
 
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I don't know if the guy i a clout chaser or not, but someone there claims he saw him climb the roof and tried to warn security.

If that's true, his entire detail needs to be replaced.
Actually, it would have fallen back on the local agencies for him getting in and setting up like he did. The Secret Service (SS) are primarily used as body guards and to make sure an avenue escape in such an event. The other agencies are tasked with venue security.

However, he is a former president and not the current, do he doesn't get the top of the SS officers. However, in your other post you were critical of their hiring practices. You remember someone else brought that up a few years ago. I hear he still has the "warning ' in his inbox.
 

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We've had like 3 different visits from anti-bullying associations and monthly talks/activities about it with my tutor group this year. I studied the book Wonder with them and they all agreed the way the kid was treated was awful and they would never want to be in his position. The kids still bullied one of their classmates to the point where he was hiding in the toilets during the breaks. When we learned about it and punished them (even expelled one), they started bullying someone from another school in the bus. Some kids are just evil, but I mostly blame the parents for this, they don't even punish them at home and when you do at school, they come make a scene defending their brats.
 

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