The Political Compass and You!

[Rosie]

National socialism was a socialist ideology.
You can accept Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pot and the Kims as part of your movement from an ethical perspective but Hitler is just too much?
That's where you draw the line?

Nationalism in itself is not an ideology itself, so instead it is seen as something which has to tack on to another ideology. That's why we've seen things ranging from National socialism to National conservatism to even extremes of Fascism which has nationalism as a far part of its ideal. I will say while there is nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage or being proud of your country, when it goes into nationalism, a blind loyalty and a superiority complex relating to other groups, that is dangerous. Because that is often what a lot of these dictators hold onto to gain power and influence or even justify genocide.

Did we go "HEY WE AGREE WITH THOSE GUYS?!" No. Take a look at the chart a second time. It isn't just "left and right" it is also vertical and most of those leaders are very much high north on the spectrum. I don't think anyone is near them No matter how you slice it, being an evil person is beyond just what your economic beliefs are. Killing a shit ton of people and establishing dictatorships? Yeah, that's evil.

"B-but he fought the real communism! How can he be socialist?!"

Take this quote from Thoughtco.com

"The main difference is that under communism, most property and economic resources are owned and controlled by the state (rather than individual citizens); under socialism, all citizens share equally in economic resources as allocated by a democratically-elected government."

Then another example from the site, describing "Democratic Socialism"

"Democratic socialism is an economic, social, and political ideology holding that while both the society and economy should be run democratically, they should be dedicated to meeting the needs of the people as a whole, rather than encouraging individual prosperity as in capitalism. Democratic socialists advocate the transition of society from capitalism to socialism through existing participatory democratic processes, rather than revolution as characterized by orthodox Marxism. Universally-used services such as housing, utilities, mass transit, and health care are distributed by the government, while consumer goods are distributed by a capitalistic free market.


The latter half of the 20th century saw the emergence of a more moderate version of socialist democracy advocating a mixture of socialist and capitalist control of all means of economic production supplemented by extensive social welfare programs to help provide the basic needs of the people."

The second paragraph is probably closer to what some people here maybe say as an idea Did anything there reference "Hey, let's kill people!? Hey, let's be racist as fuck!?" No. There are other things beyond an economic view that cause people and countries to do horrible horrible things.

As if infighting isn't the most normal thing among socialists.
You live in absolute denial.

I mean, I studied and have a degree in political science, so A: I have better than average knowledge of this stuff (not saying I can never be wrong, but I at least have some grounds of knowledge) and then if you pay attention to some of the earlier posts, it shows that along the "spectrum" there are a wide array of ideologies. It is possible for people to be near on the spectrum but has some disagreements. Even then, a political test like that presents an average. Someone may have stances on certain things which may contrast a bit with people near their spot on the spectrum.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

Talk about a fucking burial.

 

[Rosie]

Talk about a fucking burial.

Poli-sci nerd rant

 

[CakeWalker]

So some of us on WS have occasionally discussed where we lie on the political spectrum from time to time. This thread isn't designed go cause conflict, but rather showcase what sort of political ideology we are likely to fall under whether we consciously realize it or not. In this video, each major ideology of politics is explained in quick detail with some surprising revelations carried within.

 

[Comrade Khan]

Why would infighting even be a bad thing ? I much rather be on a spectrum with like minded people where a lot of ppl have different views on a myriad of issues (but agree on main political goals for humanity) then the militant equivalent where everyone stands the same on everything for the sake of "unity". Because one of those things sound like indoctrination and disallowing free thought to me

Quote : the only thing I know for sure, is that I don't know

 

[Alexa]

At the end of the day, none of this matters because before long we will all be under control of our Cat Overlords.

 

[Rosie]

At the end of the day, none of this matters because before long we will all be under control of our Cat Overlords.

Shhh, don't say anything. They'll claw your eyes out

 

[Alexa]

Shhh, don't say anything. They'll claw your eyes out

I am a martyr for the Doggo Resistance

 

[CakeWalker]

I am part of the Squirrel Brigade.

 

[CakeWalker]

 

[Comrade Khan]

At the end of the day, none of this matters because before long we will all be under control of our Cat Overlords.

Who doesn't love pussy !

 

[Alexa]

Who doesn't love pussy !

This is why I don't miss you, Jeff, lol.

 

[T-Pein™]

Talk about a fucking burial.

I wasn't convinced nor persuaded.

 

[Grimoire Lenin]

I wasn't convinced nor persuaded.

Probably didn't read it, like in mafia.

 

[T-Pein™]

Probably didn't read it, like in mafia.

If I hadnt read it,
I would had said tldr.