Travis40
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wrestlezone said:
Good to see that Vince is going to induct Steve Austin since JR isn't going to.
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Good to see that Vince is going to induct Steve Austin since JR isn't going to.
MikeRaw
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If this is true, it'd be cool. JR would be nice, ya, but Vince could really make it interesting. I always enjoy the HOF, because they break character, and talk about great stories. I'm sure Vince and Steve have some classics.
I think I prefer Vince to JR actually.
Fact is that we all know JR and Austin are mates, whereas it'd be kind of cool to see Vince break character and talk about his actual relationship with Stone Cold.
Fact is that we all know JR and Austin are mates, whereas it'd be kind of cool to see Vince break character and talk about his actual relationship with Stone Cold.
noumenon
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It would honestly be perfect....both made each other what they are in the Wrestling world. Austin was one the people who put Vince on the map and Vince gave Austin a reason to be a bad ass...and a fat paycheck..lol
Jake Roberts should induct him. Austin and the WWE should owe a lot of credit to Roberts. If it weren't for him there would be no 3:16.
That's just a random thought that came out of no where and I have no real substance to back up that thought, just a made up opinion.
That's just a random thought that came out of no where and I have no real substance to back up that thought, just a made up opinion.
This Guy
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actually its a pretty valid point about Jake the Snake. Austin 3:16 was a spur of the momment comment because of Jake's bible thumping of the time. Had Austin not said it, who knows if he would have ever turned into the superstar he became.
MikeRaw
Guest
Does anyone actually have any desire to hear Jake actually speak though? Vince is a much more appealing speaker, especially nowadays, with the way Jake is.
Oh, and it's just my opinion, but I think you guys are giving Jake too much credit.
It wasn't like Austin came up with it out of nowhere. The writers decided to allow him to make the speech, so if it hadn't been against Jake, he would've found another way of getting over.
Oh, and it's just my opinion, but I think you guys are giving Jake too much credit.
It wasn't like Austin came up with it out of nowhere. The writers decided to allow him to make the speech, so if it hadn't been against Jake, he would've found another way of getting over.
noumenon
Guest
I saw Jake a few months back at a friend's local wrestling show...trust me...you don't want him speaking at the fucking HOF...lol.
This Guy
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yeah Austin was scheduled to win, he was scheduled to speak but the "Austin 3:16" part was spur of the momment. No one knew he was going to say that, Austin included. It just popped into his head. If Jake wasn't his opponent, would it have been as impactful?
MikeRaw
Guest
Well, that's something we just can't know... It depends who it would've been instead of Jake.
Would it have been AS impactful? Probably not. but Austin, as one of the greatest promo men ever, would've had something, and although it wouldn't have had the same overnight success, the writers would see his potential, and capatilise on it.
He does owe some to Jake, like you said, but I think to have him induct him is much. I mean, it was just the fact that he was there that can be credited. He didn't tell Austin what to say, or put him over int he segment, or anything like that.
That would almost be like crediting John McCain for Obamas success. Or the crediting Kurt Warner for The Steelers win.
Would it have been AS impactful? Probably not. but Austin, as one of the greatest promo men ever, would've had something, and although it wouldn't have had the same overnight success, the writers would see his potential, and capatilise on it.
He does owe some to Jake, like you said, but I think to have him induct him is much. I mean, it was just the fact that he was there that can be credited. He didn't tell Austin what to say, or put him over int he segment, or anything like that.
That would almost be like crediting John McCain for Obamas success. Or the crediting Kurt Warner for The Steelers win.
Airfixx
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Vince > JR, IMO..... JR & SCSA's relationship means nothing to me as a viewer of WWE programming, wheras SCSA/Vince... Nuff said.
Wordlife
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Jake Roberts doesn't deserve any more credit than he gets for Austin's success. He was the guy Austin beat and his faith allowed Stone Cold to spawn the '3:16' catchphrase, but that's it. Giving him any more credit than that would be like crediting ( a large part of) the white population of America in the 50s with the emancipation because they were racist; they weren't helping the likes of MLK or Malcolm X, they just happened to give them something to work against. In that same vein you can't credit Jake Roberts with helping make Steve Austin, because his only contribution was that he got beaten and happened to be a born again Christian at the time. That's not a contribution, that's convenient circumstances.
I agree that the 3:16 comment was a big point in Austin's career, but he would have been just as massive had it not of happened. And frankly if we're going to talk about one moment that set him on the path to stardom then his I Quit match with Bret is far more important.
I agree that the 3:16 comment was a big point in Austin's career, but he would have been just as massive had it not of happened. And frankly if we're going to talk about one moment that set him on the path to stardom then his I Quit match with Bret is far more important.