I agree that they could have done that DQ finish on TV since more people would have seen it anyway and could have attracted more buys for No Mercy's Last Man Standing match. I also understand why the match itself was a DQ (to show us Cena's rage and to have him just beat Orton like he owes him money). I just don't agree with putting that type of match on PPV. We go from having a very good Summerslam Main Event between these two to a 7 minute DQ finish on the next ppv. No Mercy better deliver......
The Official WWE Unforgiven Thread
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Soulpower
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Now watch as the LMS match ends with a double knockout or some crap like that. And I know its staged but... Congrats to John Cena on being the WWE champion for a full year.
CenaMark54
Guest
It was really obvious that Orton/Cena would end in a DQ. Thats what they were building for.
The question is...Does Orton have to win the last man standing to continue this feud? I think so. If Orton wins...the feud will go to at least survivor series. If Cena wins...the I don't know what...it will either be Cena/HHH already or Orton will be fed to HHH.
Personally, I would like Orton to win. Then they can finish up Cena/Orton in a cell at Cyber Sunday. I don't see it happening though. I'm so confused right now.
Cena dropping the belt is necessary, but I just don't see it happening until Maybe HHH takes it off him at Mania. Even then it is a big if. Either way, I'm starting to get pissed off with the booking. If Orton doesn;t win at No Mercy his wholoe buildup over the last half a year has been ruined I think.
The question is...Does Orton have to win the last man standing to continue this feud? I think so. If Orton wins...the feud will go to at least survivor series. If Cena wins...the I don't know what...it will either be Cena/HHH already or Orton will be fed to HHH.
Personally, I would like Orton to win. Then they can finish up Cena/Orton in a cell at Cyber Sunday. I don't see it happening though. I'm so confused right now.
Cena dropping the belt is necessary, but I just don't see it happening until Maybe HHH takes it off him at Mania. Even then it is a big if. Either way, I'm starting to get pissed off with the booking. If Orton doesn;t win at No Mercy his wholoe buildup over the last half a year has been ruined I think.
Great One
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Orton won't win the LMS. It will either by a draw or Cena will win... then it will probably go to Hell in a Cell for sure at Cyber Sunday.
the dark knight
Guest
am i the only one who saw batista winning via spinebuster?
Burke vs CM Punk = 3.75/5
good match, could've gone either way tbh.
Matt Hardy & MVP vs Douche and Domino = 3.75/5
before the match, i thought that the Dbags were going to win...during the match, it was kinda obvious that they'll retain.but the match was fun and entertaining
Triple H vs Carlito = 4.25/5
match of the night. although i knew what was going to happen, the match put a smile on my face
Candice vs Phoenix = 2.75/5
yaaaay candice won
Khali vs batista vs Rey = 3.5/5
expected win for batista. the match wasnt really bad like a lot of you have been saying >_>
Cowboys vs Fags = *clicks fast forward*
this is where unforgiven stared to bore me out of my boxers.
the cocksucking homosexual vs Mr. Boring Headlock = 0/5
ok, i knew it was going to happen. and i knew we'd see a special match at no mercy. i can also tell that we're going to see orton vs cena's dad. so what now? boring as fuck. fuck orton and cena. both are my least fav superstars on raw right now. and cena's dad should be hanged by the testicles for just showing up. he's as gay and boring as his son is.
undertaker vs the world's uggliest man = 2.5/5 (yes, worse than the diva match).
why is this in the main event? why? by far the most quiet match in WWE's history. i thought everyone fell asleep. no cheers, no booes. no shit! taker won like every wrestling fan predicted. now its time to take the belt from batista.
i thought it was the best PPV of the year until the cowboys' match. however, it was WORTH the 3 hours...just not something to remember tomorrow.
:2up: cena and your fucking father
well, the match wasnt bad.
Burke vs CM Punk = 3.75/5
good match, could've gone either way tbh.
Matt Hardy & MVP vs Douche and Domino = 3.75/5
before the match, i thought that the Dbags were going to win...during the match, it was kinda obvious that they'll retain.but the match was fun and entertaining
Triple H vs Carlito = 4.25/5
match of the night. although i knew what was going to happen, the match put a smile on my face
Candice vs Phoenix = 2.75/5
yaaaay candice won
Khali vs batista vs Rey = 3.5/5
expected win for batista. the match wasnt really bad like a lot of you have been saying >_>
Cowboys vs Fags = *clicks fast forward*
this is where unforgiven stared to bore me out of my boxers.
the cocksucking homosexual vs Mr. Boring Headlock = 0/5
ok, i knew it was going to happen. and i knew we'd see a special match at no mercy. i can also tell that we're going to see orton vs cena's dad. so what now? boring as fuck. fuck orton and cena. both are my least fav superstars on raw right now. and cena's dad should be hanged by the testicles for just showing up. he's as gay and boring as his son is.
undertaker vs the world's uggliest man = 2.5/5 (yes, worse than the diva match).
why is this in the main event? why? by far the most quiet match in WWE's history. i thought everyone fell asleep. no cheers, no booes. no shit! taker won like every wrestling fan predicted. now its time to take the belt from batista.
i thought it was the best PPV of the year until the cowboys' match. however, it was WORTH the 3 hours...just not something to remember tomorrow.
:2up: cena and your fucking father
PeepShow
Guest
No, I told you this about 7 hrs ago. I also said it last night in the SB. The ending to that match sucked my balls. "But how else is he supposed to win"?
Exactly. Khali should have won. I dont want Khali to be champ as much as any of you do, but cmon, you got your fucking selves in this damn how WWE., and then you procede to have someone win on a spinebuster? Pfffft. Its really amazing when people like Triple H, Edge, and Taker can kick out, but not the strongest and baddest man since Andre?
no:Batista should have pinned both Mysterio and Khali when he hit the Batista Bomb on Rey onto Khali. That would have been a very convincing victory
i thought was ok,nowt special i wanna see sum of the bigger matches go for a bit longer hardly ever see a decent long match now.plus a tlc match wudnt go a miss in 1 of the up coming ppv's.best match for me was hhh vs carlito takers match was a big let dwn imo
How was Taker's match a big let down? Were you expect some kind of technical masterpiece from them Henry/Taker? I thought it was good for what it was. Taker returned and had his grand entrance, showed off all of his usual moves and then got the 1..2..3 and the fans went home happy.
nah i didnt expect technical master peice.but it wasnt that good for me it seemed a bit dull and wasnt that exciting i dnt know why mayb coz it was henry i dnt know i love watching taker but that match IMO i didnt think was out flash
this was on the sun website
WWE UNFORGIVEN may have seen wrestling records broken, but it certainly won't set any itself.
Going into the show there was only one match we wanted to see - John Cena v Randy Orton.
Sadly that was probably the worst of the lot.
Cena's run of amazing main events was ruined by bad wrestling and even worse booking, as The Champ was disqualified after just eight minutes.
Before we discuss the contest though, a word on John's achievement.
By retaining the title, which can't change hands on disqualification, it means by the time Raw rolls around next Monday he would have held the belt for 372 days.
That gives Cena the longest title reign since Hulk Hogan's 1984-1988 golden period.
It will also give him the sixth most impressive run in history trailing only Bruno Sammartino twice (2,803 and 1,237 days), Bob Backlund (2,135), Hulk Hogan (1,474) and Pedro Morales (1,027).
That is some achievement, given how often titles change hands in the modern era, especially considering he has now held the gold for a longer unbroken period than Bret Hart (248), Shawn Michaels (231), Steve Austin (175) and Triple H (118).
Most of his matches in that time have been strong, especially his title-win over Edge and previous defences against Michaels, Umaga and Orton.
Sadly his Unforgiven bout will not sit alongside those on a Best Of DVD.
To even call it a match is a stretch, it was more like a Raw segment.
Cutting a short story even shorter, Cena went into the match angry with Randy for attacking his father a few weeks ago.
So after a few wrestling moves he repeatedly punched Orton in the corner, while the ref told him to stop, and ended up getting disqualified.
It means the great feud continues and we'll get Orton v Cena again in a Last Man Standing match at No Mercy, although that will be little comfort to the American fans who paid around £20 to watch this PPV.
Batista had a better night.
The Animal broke an unwanted record of title-match losses and actually managed to make a fight featuring Great Khali interesting.
Big Dave has been involved in every Smackdown heavyweight title contest on PPV since August 2006, including losing the belt at WrestleMania on April 1 2007 and then failing in seven consecutive shots at the belt.
All that changed at Unforgiven though, as he won the gold by pinning Khali in a three-way also featuring Rey Mysterio.
It will never go down as a classic, but the three had an entertaining outing which ended when Batista powerbombed Mysterio onto Khali then hit a spinebuster on the giant and pinned him.
A MISMATCH ... Triple H's victory over Carlito was never in doubt
A CERTAINTY ... Triple H's victory
over Carlito was never in doubt
The third title match on the show saw ECW champion CM Punk defeat Elijah Burke, who was subbing for the suspended John Morrison.
A good wrestling match, fans never got into it as there was never any danger of Punk losing.
The same can be said for contests involving the returning Undertaker and Triple H - they were always going to win.
Even with Carlito being allowed to use any weapon he wanted against Hunter, everyone knew that match would always end in a Pedigree and a three-count.
And anyone who thought Mark Henry could defeat Undertaker needed their heads testing.
Triple H's bout was passable, but Taker's was terrible.
He and Henry just didn't gel and the totally dead crowd made things even worse.
The audience were quiet throughout the night - unsurprising given what was on offer.
Hamstrung by steroid suspensions, plus disputes with Booker T and Ric Flair, the card was stripped of star power.
MVP and Hardy played reluctant Smackdown tag champions well in retaining their belts and women's champion Candice Michelle beating Beth Phoenix told a good tale.
Sadly in both cases, again, the storytelling was better than the wrestling.
Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch beating Paul London & Brian Kendrick for the Raw tag straps was probably the best match on the show, but nowhere near the best of the year.
What Unforgiven did well was really develop feuds with good video packages and, in most cases, match layout.
Sadly the PPV was all build up and no bite.
We give Unforgiven 6 out of 10.
WWE UNFORGIVEN may have seen wrestling records broken, but it certainly won't set any itself.
Going into the show there was only one match we wanted to see - John Cena v Randy Orton.
Sadly that was probably the worst of the lot.
Cena's run of amazing main events was ruined by bad wrestling and even worse booking, as The Champ was disqualified after just eight minutes.
Before we discuss the contest though, a word on John's achievement.
By retaining the title, which can't change hands on disqualification, it means by the time Raw rolls around next Monday he would have held the belt for 372 days.
That gives Cena the longest title reign since Hulk Hogan's 1984-1988 golden period.
It will also give him the sixth most impressive run in history trailing only Bruno Sammartino twice (2,803 and 1,237 days), Bob Backlund (2,135), Hulk Hogan (1,474) and Pedro Morales (1,027).
That is some achievement, given how often titles change hands in the modern era, especially considering he has now held the gold for a longer unbroken period than Bret Hart (248), Shawn Michaels (231), Steve Austin (175) and Triple H (118).
Most of his matches in that time have been strong, especially his title-win over Edge and previous defences against Michaels, Umaga and Orton.
Sadly his Unforgiven bout will not sit alongside those on a Best Of DVD.
To even call it a match is a stretch, it was more like a Raw segment.
Cutting a short story even shorter, Cena went into the match angry with Randy for attacking his father a few weeks ago.
So after a few wrestling moves he repeatedly punched Orton in the corner, while the ref told him to stop, and ended up getting disqualified.
It means the great feud continues and we'll get Orton v Cena again in a Last Man Standing match at No Mercy, although that will be little comfort to the American fans who paid around £20 to watch this PPV.
Batista had a better night.
The Animal broke an unwanted record of title-match losses and actually managed to make a fight featuring Great Khali interesting.
Big Dave has been involved in every Smackdown heavyweight title contest on PPV since August 2006, including losing the belt at WrestleMania on April 1 2007 and then failing in seven consecutive shots at the belt.
All that changed at Unforgiven though, as he won the gold by pinning Khali in a three-way also featuring Rey Mysterio.
It will never go down as a classic, but the three had an entertaining outing which ended when Batista powerbombed Mysterio onto Khali then hit a spinebuster on the giant and pinned him.
A MISMATCH ... Triple H's victory over Carlito was never in doubt
A CERTAINTY ... Triple H's victory
over Carlito was never in doubt
The third title match on the show saw ECW champion CM Punk defeat Elijah Burke, who was subbing for the suspended John Morrison.
A good wrestling match, fans never got into it as there was never any danger of Punk losing.
The same can be said for contests involving the returning Undertaker and Triple H - they were always going to win.
Even with Carlito being allowed to use any weapon he wanted against Hunter, everyone knew that match would always end in a Pedigree and a three-count.
And anyone who thought Mark Henry could defeat Undertaker needed their heads testing.
Triple H's bout was passable, but Taker's was terrible.
He and Henry just didn't gel and the totally dead crowd made things even worse.
The audience were quiet throughout the night - unsurprising given what was on offer.
Hamstrung by steroid suspensions, plus disputes with Booker T and Ric Flair, the card was stripped of star power.
MVP and Hardy played reluctant Smackdown tag champions well in retaining their belts and women's champion Candice Michelle beating Beth Phoenix told a good tale.
Sadly in both cases, again, the storytelling was better than the wrestling.
Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch beating Paul London & Brian Kendrick for the Raw tag straps was probably the best match on the show, but nowhere near the best of the year.
What Unforgiven did well was really develop feuds with good video packages and, in most cases, match layout.
Sadly the PPV was all build up and no bite.
We give Unforgiven 6 out of 10.